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#1 fat_rabbit

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:35 PM

So far I've only had one real game against an actual opponent. Do to the excitement I have over this game and lack of opponents I've played three more mock games by myself. All four games the Uthuk has easily taken over the board and won.

I know I have a ton of gameplay to do before I can come to my own conclusion, but I was wondering what others experiences were. Who wins more in your games? Or the more important question do you think the two factions are balanced?

#2 Budgernaut

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:56 PM

I have only played 3 or 4 solo games myself and the Uthuk Y'llan consistently come out on top. I did play the starter scenario once with my wife and she won as the Daqan, but I was going easy on her so that I didn't turn her away from yet another game. :)


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:45 AM

In case, can you spot out what you believe to be Uthuk's greatest strength that could lead to unbalance? Or Daqan's biggest weakness. Just wondering. As for me, we're more or less 50-50, but we noticed that the biggest impact on scenarios is the way you run the setup. Reading what army to deploy according to the objectives of the two halves of the scenario and the terrain is quite challenging.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 01:49 PM

In case, can you spot out what you believe to be Uthuk's greatest strength that could lead to unbalance? Or Daqan's biggest weakness. Just wondering. As for me, we're more or less 50-50, but we noticed that the biggest impact on scenarios is the way you run the setup. Reading what army to deploy according to the objectives of the two halves of the scenario and the terrain is quite challenging.


I myself do not have an opinion of balance between the two factions yet. I really have only played one game. My first impression of the Uthuk is that they seem to hit a lot harder than the Daqan. But just because one faction is better at putting out damage doesn't mean there's an imbalance. And just to reiterate, it's only my first impression of Uthuk that they hit harder, my opinion on that might change over time.

I'm glad to see someone who seems to have experience with the game attest to the fact that there is balance between the factions.

I more so posted this to get others opinions on the factions and start some debates. It seems there's a lack of chatter on the forums about this game that I'm very excited about.

#5 Harganok

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:19 PM

I think our games have been mostly won by the humans so far. They aren't as great in combat but seem to get VPs more quickly in our games.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:02 PM

Not really "experienced" here, but for now I noticed humans to have a better movement and to tag team a lot better, so that different units can actually enhance each other and become an impressive force.far better than demon units (who are definitely stronger in terms of brutal attacks).

 

For example, two Riverwatch Riders can enhance each other, resulting in both units gaining the bonus for Flanking, and this can be impressive (especially if defending from a Forest Hex or similar). Plus, they cannot be countered. And they move 4 hexes, which is impressive. And so on.

 

What impressed me the least (so far, at least; certainly I need to play more) is the Chaos Lord: cool guy, but also too slow.


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#7 Daverman

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:02 PM

About a dozen games under our belts and I think the Daqan have 1 or 2 more wins so it's been pretty even. We have no favorites and just alternate sides each game. I think the unit balance is good, but am starting to look more closely at the scenario balance where I think the Daqan might have an edge.

It's a small point, but I think the Daqan can easily field the Command Tent in their 2nd row without sacrificing much in terms of position (most scenarios have few deployment hexes beyond that) while the Uthuk have to either put it out in their 3rd or 4th row where it's pretty vulnerable or put it farther back and lose the advantage of placing units close to the middle.




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