Seems like there is a lot of pretense from both sides in this thread. Regardless, AH was the board game that opened up this wonderful hobby to me and my wife. It will always have a special place in our hearts. We are now board game enthusiasts that own and play a myriad of board/card games. We own a ton of games in all genres and enjoy them all, hardcore war games being the exception.
Having said that, I'm in the camp that feels AH is a bloated beast. We played our first game of EH last night and lost a close game. Very fun and full of great theme. We both had a blast and this is a game that will now hit the table to satisfy our Cthulhu itch. We are both huge fans of Lovecraft as an aside. For us, this game "fixes" what was wrong with AH. I imagine, for some, AH will still be the game of choice. That's awesome and I'm certainly not pretentious enough to say they're wrong or silly. I ask the same respect in return.
Finally, I think people needs to realize these are simply games that are played for pleasure. No game is objectively better or worse than the other. It's all subjective in the end. Happy gaming everyone!
See, even in this post which says that they are 'games to be played for pleasure. No game is objectively better or worse than the other.' there is a slap at Arkham being a 'bloated beast' which is an insult. If you had just made your post and left that out it would be one thing but I'm not a 'boardgamer' I'm a wargamer of 41 years and quite frankly if you hand me a game with a one page rule sheet I'll hand it back. I look for depth and replay value in a game. I'm not interested in learning a set of rules that I will be bored with after the first day of play and have to turn around and learn a new set tomorrow.
Arkham is the only board game I have bought in decades because it provided that depth and variety of play. Besides wargames I am a long time player of RPGs and I think that is why Arkham really caught on with me. It is very much a lite RPG boardgame which is almost impossible to do. And I had looked at a number of games that I realized I would burn through in short order before deciding on Arkham.
If you want to understand what is going on in the 'versus' situation notice that threads everywhere, not just here, are being started by new Eldritch players and not by Arkham players. The response usually comes from an Arkham player and I'm afraid until the Eldritch fans get it through their heads that they can play their game without being condescending to players of other games that this will just continue.
It truly has sucked the fun out of playing Arkham for me and I honestly question how much longer I will keep it on the shelf. If the bickering continues I believe I will just sell mine and invest the cash back into games that people aren't fighting over. It's no fun when the community that once was helpful and peaceful has turned into a mud slinging contest (and community was 50% of what convinced me to buy the system).
Edited by suicidepuppet, 08 January 2014 - 07:51 PM.