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#21 Askil

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:36 AM

I find it rather funny that you believe people in the Imperium know nothing abou the inquisition.

 

The inquisition is the boogey man that bumps back in the dark.

 

Every imperial citizen would have heard the name at least in passing, having been taught to fear it from birth. How much they would actually know beyond the name and the broadest impression of "hunts evil" is a matter of carefully managed propaganda.

 

To the common man the inquisition is a feared and distant force like the arbites or the navy , you pray you never need know any more about them.

 

The inquisition is like the Emperor. A mysterious and omnipresent force menacing in it`s power and tireless in it`s vigilance.


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#22 segara82

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 03:04 AM

Considering that there are planets where the Ministorium and it's preachers are newcomers and busy spreading the word around the globe, Hive levels were no churches or shrines are worshipped for Him on Terra, ... wo would spread word about the Inquisition or know about them?

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#23 Arrakiz

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 04:50 AM

Considering that there are planets where the Ministorium and it's preachers are newcomers and busy spreading the word around the globe, Hive levels were no churches or shrines are worshipped for Him on Terra, ... wo would spread word about the Inquisition or know about them?

You know, that just sounds like the next assignment for Acolytes...



#24 segara82

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 05:05 AM

Just make sure that the sent Acolytes are competent. We don't need a Mell-Brooks-Reenactment.

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#25 Arrakiz

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 01:26 PM

Just make sure that the sent Acolytes are competent. We don't need a Mell-Brooks-Reenactment.

... Or do we? Who knows what's the super secrit plan of the Inquisition. Plus, there is no such things like "competent" Acolytes. At best there are those that are lucky and keep their mouths shut.



#26 GauntZero

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 11:17 PM

There certainly are different stages of competency ;) i would blame all of them because of some black sheep ;)

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#27 Tenebrae

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 07:03 AM

Considering that there are planets where the Ministorium and it's preachers are newcomers and busy spreading the word around the globe,

But these are a distinct minority.

 

Hive levels were no churches or shrines are worshipped for Him on Terra, ... wo would spread word about the Inquisition or know about them?

Thing is, the Inquisition is a religious secret police force. And like most secret police forces, their primary weapons is fear, so they can't really afford to be all that secret. Remember that post about hunting with hounds above? Yeah.



#28 segara82

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:44 AM

Just for comparison:

Scintilla has according to the CRB a population of 25 billion people, more that 3 times the amount we have on present day earth.

Pick the name of any police force/church/goverment organization/... and make a tour around the world. How many people do you roughly estimate will not be able to identify what you ask them about?

And in the Empire communication is even worse, since technology is mystified and Psykers are required for long-distance communication.

So while there may not be many planets that have not heard about the Inquisition, the number of people that have not heard about it will be more. At least in my campaigns.


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#29 Arrakiz

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 12:32 PM

Just for comparison:

Scintilla has according to the CRB a population of 25 billion people, more that 3 times the amount we have on present day earth.

Pick the name of any police force/church/goverment organization/... and make a tour around the world. How many people do you roughly estimate will not be able to identify what you ask them about?

And in the Empire communication is even worse, since technology is mystified and Psykers are required for long-distance communication.

So while there may not be many planets that have not heard about the Inquisition, the number of people that have not heard about it will be more. At least in my campaigns.

So, the point is that the idea that everybody in the Imperium heard about Inquisition and is scared shitless of them is unrealistic? 'Cus, I gotta tell ya, that's a pretty silly hill to die on. This entire setting is completely unrealistic and in many wyas it seems it works in exactly opposite way as to how it should work. Really, you either swallow it all, or go mad.


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#30 GauntZero

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 12:40 PM

Nobody said everybody knows about the inquisition.

 

Those who do know, are probably in fear or at least careful about the inquisition.


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#31 Arrakiz

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:00 PM

Nobody said everybody knows about the inquisition.

 

Those who do know, are probably in fear or at least careful about the inquisition.

The way I understand it, it's supposed to be that wherever you go, most people will understand what Inquisition is supposed to be. That most people in the Imperium have heard of it. Now, logistically, that's impossible. Realistically, maybe a tiny fraction of Imperium could have actually heard about it. But that's a setting assumption none the less. You either buy that or gohome.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:52 PM

Just for comparison:

Scintilla has according to the CRB a population of 25 billion people, more that 3 times the amount we have on present day earth.

Pick the name of any police force/church/goverment organization/... and make a tour around the world. How many people do you roughly estimate will not be able to identify what you ask them about?

And in the Empire communication is even worse, since technology is mystified and Psykers are required for long-distance communication.

So while there may not be many planets that have not heard about the Inquisition, the number of people that have not heard about it will be more. At least in my campaigns.

 

 

I would not know what the poliziey zeomthe gaihtes would be (totaly made this up, but let's say it's Romania's national police force) because I'm living too far away and they never made the headlines.

 

The Pope and the Vatican on the other hand, now this is something everyone and their aunt knows about, even if they're not Catholic, partially because they're in the news every other week, and second because they've been around for 1800 years or so.

 

I would say that the Inquisition is known to pretty much everyone, if only as a legendary 'don't mess with us' for the lowly underhiver.  After you beat up a few, they'll get the idea that you're not just a story the hive merchants talk about.



#33 Radwraith

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:50 PM

Knowing of something does not necessarily imply understanding of it. We've all heard of the CIA and the KGB but how many of us have met an actual agent? If you were in the military or worked for the state department maybe. Otherwise; unlikely! To take this analogy one step further: If one of your new buddies starts spouting about himself being on a secret mission for some alphabet soup agency, how would you react? Better still; How would the local drug dealer on the corner react? Now imagine if said drug dealer really did have connections to MS-13 or Al-Quaida? I'm thinking your newfound buddy is in for a VERY bad day! 

 

The point of this is that your target heretics probably know a lot more about how to ferret out a 'real' Acolyte and positively identify them than your average John Q. public does. John Q. almost certainly has heard of the Inquisition but wouldn't recognise an ACTUAL Inquisitor until he lit his funeral pyre!


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