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#1 unclered

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 10:05 PM

Hi FFG,
 
(sorry for my bad bad english 1st...)
 
I am a Chinese desktop-game player. I really love your game DescentII, it's amazing.
 
I bought DescentII Chinese base game / trollfens expan. , and the god damn conversion kit......
 
The conversion kit is really cool! but it didn't had figures and models. Also in China, it's hard to buy things abroad, we can only buy things from your dealer (HONGKONG WARGAMES CLUB inc.).
 
So i am asking, do you have a plan to present the DescentI monsters & Heroes models new products?just like your lieutenant pack.
 
many players in china like me want the monster models very much. will afford even 120 dollar
(for 92 monster models)to have it.
 
if you don't have the plan that present D1 models, could we players raising fund and find a modeling vendor to make this? we will not using this for sale, just for self playing. we have approximately 300-500people and have a modeling factory can make good models for us.
 
will it have legal problems?
 
Pls reply ,thanks!
 
(sorry for my bad english, the speaking way maybe seemed rude, it because my english is bad, i'm a big fan of FFG and love your games!)
 
 
Loren


#2 griton

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 09:57 AM

Hey Loren,

 

(Firstly, I'm not from FFG, so I can't make any official statements.)

 

That said, from what I've heard around the grapevine, forums, etc., there's no plans to re-produce the models for the Conversion Kit. It was always intended as a product to pull in players from Descent 1st Edition who might have felt that their 1st Edition collection was somehow "worthless" with the new edition.

 

I'm not sure how things work in China in regards to something like EBAY, etc., but most people elsewhere get their 1st edition figures from people who have been trying to get rid of their 1st edition sets. Just be wary of buying ones that don't have figures; a number of people have been selling sets that say "NO FIGURES" because they took the figures out for use in 2nd Edition and are just getting rid of the base game (which could still be used if you use proxies).

 

Lastly, it's pretty rare that FFG actually responds to comments on this forum (though there is some evidence that they read them). And even the ones that do read these posts are probably community managers and are not in a position to make calls about international licensing. As such, you may have better luck getting a response by sending an email.

 

Cheers!



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 09:14 PM

I second the idea of contacting FFG by email.  (There's a "Contact" link down at the bottom of the page.)

No one who's likely to respond in these forums will have the authority to answer your question.

 

I sincerely doubt they would agree to let you make copies of their figures, though.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:38 AM

Hey Loren,

 

(Firstly, I'm not from FFG, so I can't make any official statements.)

 

That said, from what I've heard around the grapevine, forums, etc., there's no plans to re-produce the models for the Conversion Kit. It was always intended as a product to pull in players from Descent 1st Edition who might have felt that their 1st Edition collection was somehow "worthless" with the new edition.

 

I'm not sure how things work in China in regards to something like EBAY, etc., but most people elsewhere get their 1st edition figures from people who have been trying to get rid of their 1st edition sets. Just be wary of buying ones that don't have figures; a number of people have been selling sets that say "NO FIGURES" because they took the figures out for use in 2nd Edition and are just getting rid of the base game (which could still be used if you use proxies).

 

Lastly, it's pretty rare that FFG actually responds to comments on this forum (though there is some evidence that they read them). And even the ones that do read these posts are probably community managers and are not in a position to make calls about international licensing. As such, you may have better luck getting a response by sending an email.

 

Cheers!

 

 

international shipping and paying is complicated in China. ebay and amazon don‘t sell other country goods...

 

we had to use the DND figures instead...



#5 unclered

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:43 AM

I second the idea of contacting FFG by email.  (There's a "Contact" link down at the bottom of the page.)

No one who's likely to respond in these forums will have the authority to answer your question.

 

I sincerely doubt they would agree to let you make copies of their figures, though.

 

i send mail to ffg, and they said FFG have no plans of releasing the 1st edition monsters, and i have no permission to remake out models...


Edited by unclered, 09 January 2014 - 12:44 AM.


#6 unclered

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:43 AM

Hey Loren,

 

(Firstly, I'm not from FFG, so I can't make any official statements.)

 

That said, from what I've heard around the grapevine, forums, etc., there's no plans to re-produce the models for the Conversion Kit. It was always intended as a product to pull in players from Descent 1st Edition who might have felt that their 1st Edition collection was somehow "worthless" with the new edition.

 

I'm not sure how things work in China in regards to something like EBAY, etc., but most people elsewhere get their 1st edition figures from people who have been trying to get rid of their 1st edition sets. Just be wary of buying ones that don't have figures; a number of people have been selling sets that say "NO FIGURES" because they took the figures out for use in 2nd Edition and are just getting rid of the base game (which could still be used if you use proxies).

 

Lastly, it's pretty rare that FFG actually responds to comments on this forum (though there is some evidence that they read them). And even the ones that do read these posts are probably community managers and are not in a position to make calls about international licensing. As such, you may have better luck getting a response by sending an email.

 

Cheers!

 

 

i send mail to ffg, and they said FFG have no plans of releasing the 1st edition monsters, and i have no permission to remake out models...


Edited by unclered, 09 January 2014 - 12:44 AM.


#7 Robin

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:33 AM

If you don't mind about it, creating standups or using proxy figures is also a way to solve the problem.
Making standups is the less costly solution - and it is what I did (using googled graphics).

 

I detailed things in a thread on BGG : http://www.boardgame...358657#11358657

Heroes (using the CK kit graphics) :
pic1567089_md.jpg

 

Monsters (with non FFG graphics) :

pic1519039_md.jpg

 

pic1519040_md.jpg

 

pic1519041_md.jpg

 

pic1519043_md.jpg

 

pic1519046_md.jpg

 

 

Here kobold and hellhound standups mixed with normal plastic figures:

pic1618564_md.jpg


Edited by Robin, 09 January 2014 - 04:34 AM.

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#8 jadedbacon

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:35 AM

I noticed its not looking too good for the heroes in that picture you posted ;)

 

Otherwise I really like how you set up the proxies, clean and neat but gets the job done.  Good work +1


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#9 Robin

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:06 PM

I noticed its not looking too good for the heroes in that picture you posted ;)
 

Hee hee.
The monsters are complaining because they have no job to do.;-)
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#10 Ravnos Phantom

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:37 PM

I think the "Oath of the Outcast" expansion is just what you have been looking for.

:-)


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#11 XmenDynasty

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 06:43 PM

Is there going to be any way for those of us who have all the figures from the first edition and the conversion kit to access the new quests?



#12 unclered

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:12 AM

I think the "Oath of the Outcast" expansion is just what you have been looking for.

:-)

 

I and 500 bros in China got this news this morning, it's so good. we crazily happy. screaming and laughing.


Edited by unclered, 10 January 2014 - 12:12 AM.

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#13 unclered

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:13 AM

If you don't mind about it, creating standups or using proxy figures is also a way to solve the problem.
Making standups is the less costly solution - and it is what I did (using googled graphics).

 

I detailed things in a thread on BGG : http://www.boardgame...358657#11358657

Heroes (using the CK kit graphics) :
pic1567089_md.jpg

 

Monsters (with non FFG graphics) :

pic1519039_md.jpg

 

pic1519040_md.jpg

 

pic1519041_md.jpg

 

pic1519043_md.jpg

 

pic1519046_md.jpg

 

 

Here kobold and hellhound standups mixed with normal plastic figures:

pic1618564_md.jpg

 

that's an awesome solution, thanks bro!


Edited by unclered, 10 January 2014 - 12:14 AM.


#14 Rico

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:10 AM

Or you can just buy the new monster packs as they release. Rehashed models and different stats than the conversion kit.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:11 AM

Is there going to be any way for those of us who have all the figures from the first edition and the conversion kit to access the new quests?

 

Do you mean without also having the 2nd Edition core box? If so, there isn't. The Conversion Kit wasn't meant to allow you to play the new stuff just by having the first edition stuff. It was meant to allow you to integrate some aspects of first edition (heroes and monsters) into your 2nd Edition games. I'm pretty sure that it says so right on the box that Descent 2nd Edition is required (I unfortunately don't have the box with me to confirm)

 

If you're unsure how to integrate them into the 2nd Edition quests, most quests (albeit not the first one / intro quest that many places demo) allow for the Overlord to select "Open Groups" of monsters that can be used in the encounter. For these, you can select from any monsters that have a trait that matches one of the traits for the encounter (Symbols in the upper corners of the monster cards and quest guides, that look like skulls, trees, ruins, caves, elements, etc.)

 

If you mean something else, I'm not quite sure what you're asking.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:38 AM

I'm pretty sure his question is the same as mine - are the quests that come in these expansions going to be available without having to buy the expansions? As someone who has all the D1E product and bought the conversion kit, I don't really care about these products (even with new sculpts - that's not worth the money to me) except that I would be interested in getting the quests. Not interested enough to rebuy figs for monsters I already have, though.

 

That said, I'm not upset or anything. I think it makes a lot of sense for FFG to sell these to people who didn't have the D1E stuff (although I'm guessing a lot of people would have liked to have known this was going to happen before shelling out for the D1E products on eBay). It would just be nice to be able to get just the quests somehow.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:17 PM

I wouldn't hold my breath.


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#18 rfisha

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:29 PM

Is there going to be any way for those of us who have all the figures from the first edition and the conversion kit to access the new quests?

 

I hope so, but I doubt it.  Even if they did a Print-On-Demand version of the quest guide it will still be expensive due to postage costs.

Having said that, I like the new figures and Artwork of the characters and will probably buy it anyway.



#19 Subt1e

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:47 PM

I think the quests are just an incentive to buy the new(old) figures.

Then again they could post them online and just let you print them yourself.






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