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#21 SolennelBern

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:12 AM

The question is: Will they still print expansions, even those of the earlier Cycles so newcomers can have a chance to grab them?



#22 sammann11

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:37 AM

SolennelBern - they say they will keep printing the old stuff. This makes sense as they just reprinted the older Deluxe Expansions.

 

Rodzyn (and the Greyjoys) said it best over at the Winvasion site: What is dead may never die!!!


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#23 yihyang

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:39 AM

Sad news, as I'm just waiting to start playing this game since I was taken in by the Hidden Kingdoms previews and all. 

 

Perhaps fans will keep this one alive via dream expansions and what-not, a la SWCCG?

 

On a sidenote, being a serious Blood Bowl Team Manager Card Game fan, I hope this means more regular expansions for that beloved game of mine. We have room for one more (regularly published) Warhammer fantasy game, apart from Diskwars right? *here's to hoping*



#24 cparadis

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 08:16 AM

As a fan of Invasion (development ceased) and the Warhammer Fantasy RPG (development all but officially ceased),and Blood Bowl, I hope you are right, but I think the 40k setting just had so much more mass appeal (though I've never gotten into it) and that is where FFG will be focusing.

#25 Mig el Pig

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 08:17 AM

A real shame,

 

I bought warhammer: Invasion the day it was released and followed it till Legends came out. Although it was a great game with fast and fluid mechanics, great art and production value I didn't like certain gameplay elements and stopped playing it.

 

I never lost interest though and with the news of the Hidden Kingdoms expansion and the introduction of Ambush and Raider my biggest complaints about the game were resolved. The limit of 6 races was gone and somewhere some people already started dreaming about Brettonia, Ogre Kingdoms and Tomb Kings. The Ambush and Raider mechanic brought alot of tactical options to the battlefield phase and this was something alot of people wanted. I even bought some packs and Cataclysm in anticipation of what I thought would be a revival of the game. And now this.

 

I understand that for FFG 5 LCG's were maybe a bit too much and that Warhammer maybe wasn't selling well enough for a continuation but I really think the addition of Hidden Kingdoms and the increase in interactivity was the perfect way to reclaim some ground and develop new interest in the game. It worked for me.

 

Eternal War together with Hidden Kingdoms and MP rules were imho the best additions to the game since the core set and I hope, in vain I think, that FFG will reconsider their decision of a termination of WH:I. The fact that they have made up their mind even before gauging the succes of Hidden Kingdoms saddens me and reflects badly on the perception of LCG's in general.

 

I'm not asking for a return to the old release schedule but a deluxe expansion every 6-9 months that focuses on interactivity could truly make this great game legendary.

 

I still remain an advocate and supporter of the LCG concept but now it will be with modesty and caution instead of enthousiasm.


Edited by Mig el Pig, 27 November 2013 - 08:21 AM.

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#26 slick

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

Well said Mig. I too thought that the eternal cycle revived the game and cata plus hidden kingdoms pushed the game to a really good direction. If a new player were to start this game all they needed were these packs and they're good. It seems that the community always had more lurkers than active forum advocates but today goes to show that this game still gets a lot of support from players.
One can only hope they retract this knee jerk reaction of canceling it. As you said Mel I love the LCg concept but if this can happen to invasion it can happen to any of the product lines. Kind of defeats the purpose of calling it Living card game.

#27 Katsuyori

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:09 AM

What a shame. Finally multiplayer, finally the neutral factions playable on their own, new mechanics like ambush and raider...

 

Well, I think my group will play the game a very long time after the shutdown, so it is not really dead yet.

 

Maybe we get some other great game instead. I, personally, do pray for WH I 4 K.



#28 spalanzani

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:57 AM

Wow, I'm stunned. I always thought Cthulhu would be the first to come to an end. This was my second LCG, but definitely the one that got me into them in a big way (it was actually the March of the Damned advert that convinced me to buy this) and I've enjoyed the ride every step. Definitely a shame, but as many folks have said here, so long as we're still playing it, it won't be consigned to oblivion! 


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#29 Virgo

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:55 PM

I wonder how the polish are taking this. Maybe if they petition enough the game might still live. Any thoughts Virgo? :(

Everybody is shocked  :(

 

Also: there are whispers about fun-made expansion...


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#30 vorpal_Cortex

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:32 PM

I just ordered my core set, assault on ulthuan and cataclysm. I'll pick up the other deluxe sets on my next purchase. I'm looking forward to playing.


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#31 slick

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:41 PM

:huh: only game i know where ppl want to buy the stuff when it ends


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#32 rzarectz

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:20 PM

I guess when they released End Times they weren't freakin kidding
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#33 Doc9

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 06:27 PM

I really hope that there are some player made expansions in the same way that there are still sets released for Star Wars ccg. I'm kind of pissed about this.

#34 meggypeggs

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 05:15 AM

Just a thought but do you think the license ran out via GW?

 

May have been out of FFG control...



#35 Toqtamish

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 07:05 AM

No. Warhammer disk wars is on the way and would be affected if it was a license issue.

#36 Virgo

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 08:21 AM

No. Warhammer disk wars is on the way and would be affected if it was a license issue.

Warhammer Diskwars is a finished product waiting for soonish release.



#37 Silent Wolf

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:48 AM

I really hope that there are some player made expansions in the same way that there are still sets released for Star Wars ccg. I'm kind of pissed about this.

 

If that happens someway, i really hope that whoever does it is/has a good lawyer... GW has always shown zero-tolerance for those who try to use its "intellectual properties" without consent :ph34r:



#38 Hans Chung-Otterson

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 02:01 PM

I don't play Warhammer (Netrunner and Star Wars here), but I'm keenly interested in what happens to an LCG when it stops getting developed. One thing *I* would do if I were a W:I player: try a big dedicated push to get some regular stuff going on OCTGN. Do weird (normal), fun tournament formats that FFG never tried out, like Core Set + 1 expansion cycle, etc. If this game is going to live it's going to live on the internet. Start it now!


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#39 SeanXor

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

I think I have moved through the five stage of grief about the canceling of the game and I have reached acceptance.  I am actually excited about moving forward with this game in different ways.  

 

Up to this point all of my energy has been involved in making the best tournament style decks possible.  I was constantly refining and testing new ideas to come up with the best deck possible.  However, that is no longer an issue.  Also, since I have all of the cards that means this is a "complete game" for me.  

 

Moving forward I am going to be looking to do two things with Warhammer: Invasion. First, I am going to make all new decks.   However, instead of trying to make the best tournament deck, I am going to try to make decks that are balanced against each other.  Especially with Cataclysm, if I could make four decks that balanced well so that any of the decks could beat any of the other decks, I will have a ready to go package to play at game nights (or even teach new players with!)  

 

Second, I am excited about revisiting the draft format.  The core set is essentially a pre-built cube.  Using the card make up of the core set of a template and the full card pool, I can make new cubes to draft from.  With my wife and other experienced players this might be the most fun way to play the game now.   

 

While my focus of how I engage the game will need to change, I am still looking forward to a lot more Warhammer: Invasion! 


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#40 jonnel

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 05:21 PM

Well, as long as it remains in print and stocked in gamestores!


Edited by jonnel, 05 December 2013 - 10:26 AM.





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