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#1 htsmithium

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 06:13 AM

Figure I would get the ball rolling and ask what people with the book think of it. you know, the standard: what's new and shiny? How do the carriers look? are there any new ship options? how's the adventure?...etc. I think that's covered the normal ones :)


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#2 LordBlades

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 06:20 AM

Is it out yet? I had no idea



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:36 PM

well the news feed says it is on sale.


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#4 Sebastian Yorke

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:32 PM

No option for Download purchase. D:


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#5 InfinityDoctor

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 04:33 PM

Mine turned up today, although I haven't finished reading it thoroughly yet. Based on a rough read-through, you get a chapter dedicated to famed missionaries, covering their lives, actions and final fate (which isn't always certain).  

 

Labours of Faith offers new Endeavours specific to ecclesiastical characters, such as bringing a lost populace back into the Creed, or recovering an artefact. This also adds mini write-ups for two new worlds, Ikeran and Pratus.

 

Instruments of the Creed adds six new Careers plus a number of weapons (including the new "Cleansing Fire" and "Sanctified" qualities), armour and miscellany. There is also a section on Holy Relics here, associated with the characters introduced in the opening chapter.

 

The book is rounded off with a reasonably sized adventure "The Sacred Heart", involving the quest for the resting place of an Imperial Saint.

 

(EDIT: probably should have listed the careers: Beastmaster, Witch Finder, Reliquarist, Adherent Of Aleynikov, Red Consecrator and Order of the Hammer Initiate. Beastmaster seems an odd inclusion, since it isn't really grounded in the priesthood (unless I missed something). )


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#6 Regis Eisen

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:30 PM

Would it be possible to tell us a bit more about the Alt Careers?



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:59 PM

I haven't gotten to the Alt careers yet (I'll update with my thoughts when I do), but from what I've read so far I think its a surprisingly well written book and an excellent addition to the RT line.  So far I've really read through the first two chapters (on the Missionaries and Labors of Faith).

 

The four Missionaries focused on are all given solid intros, and two example planets as case studies of their long travels through the expanse.  Each one actually felt different, despite their similar focus on spreading the Imperial Creed.  There were the typical editing mistakes present in all FFG stuff, but that didn't hurt the narratives too badly.  The planets pictured are also easily usable in a campaign, giving you factions and a decent idea of the current status of each world.

 

Labors of Faith lays out several campaign outlines.  They're all the same length, but mix between goals that could be achieved in a single session, and goals that require grand endeavors to accomplish.  I felt like they were excellent plothooks and overarching scripts (and the details on Snazzfleet Mordakka were the best), and that they would be best used by a middle weight GM looking for a good storyline to lead their group on.  The endeavors were more fleshed out than the outlines in the main rulebook, but didn't specify scenes or encounters.  I don't know if they are exactly what an experienced GM or group would need stock, but would definitely be worth modifying or using as inspiration.


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#8 InfinityDoctor

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:33 PM

Would it be possible to tell us a bit more about the Alt Careers?

 

Sure. The first three pretty much do what it says on the tin: Beastmaster is a creature specialist/trainer. The Witch Finder hunts psykers. The Reliquarist is an artefact hunter/antiquarian. 

 

The Adherents of Aleynikov are tied to the history of Nadine Aleynikov, one of the legendary missionaries introduced in the first chapter. They are itinerant faith healers and physicians.

 

The Red Consecrators are similar to the Redemptionist, although they follow the teachings of Genevieve Almace, another of the legendary missionaries. They are zealous warrior monks who "view battle as an expression of faith."

 

The Order Of The Hammer are followers of Nicomedes Keefe, again, introduced in the first chapter. and are drawn from the hermitage of Foulstone. They too are itinerants, but they value wisdom, knowledge and information and seek to aid the expansion of fledgling Imperial colonies. 



#9 Nameless2all

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:02 PM

I'm really beginning to like the sound of this book.

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#10 InfinityDoctor

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:43 AM

I'm really beginning to like the sound of this book.

It is a good book, and interesting counterpoint to Blood Of Martyrs. Faith and Coin doesn't deal with the workings of the Ecclesiarchy as such, it focusses instead on those individuals who travel far from the existing diocese to establish (or re-establish) the Imperial Creed.

 

The Endeavours presented could even ostensibly form the core of a player establishing their own sect or Creed variant. The GM could easily make these part of a grander scheme, with plenty of opportunities for playing out the struggle between acceptance and condemnation as heresy. 

 

What the book doesn't have, however, is much in the way of new starship options. (In fact, it may not have any, but I'm hedging here in case I missed one in the equipment section or a sidebar somewhere!) This, to be fair, is not relevant to the character types presented though - these are characters who take journeys on other people's vessels rather than commanding their own.


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#11 htsmithium

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:18 AM

 

 

 

What the book doesn't have, however, is much in the way of new starship options. (In fact, it may not have any, but I'm hedging here in case I missed one in the equipment section or a sidebar somewhere!) This, to be fair, is not relevant to the character types presented though - these are characters who take journeys on other people's vessels rather than commanding their own.

 

drats, there goes my hope of a starship sized flamer...lol.


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#12 Mordechai Von Razgriz

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:48 AM

 

drats, there goes my hope of a starship sized flamer...lol.

 

 

 

What the book doesn't have, however, is much in the way of new starship options. (In fact, it may not have any, but I'm hedging here in case I missed one in the equipment section or a sidebar somewhere!) This, to be fair, is not relevant to the character types presented though - these are characters who take journeys on other people's vessels rather than commanding their own.

 

 

Do you remember the Starfire Vents in hostile Acquisitions ? How about jury-rigging this kind of augment on plasma macrobatteries for a suitable effect... :P


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#13 Regis Eisen

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:23 AM

 

Would it be possible to tell us a bit more about the Alt Careers?

 

Sure. The first three pretty much do what it says on the tin: Beastmaster is a creature specialist/trainer. The Witch Finder hunts psykers. The Reliquarist is an artefact hunter/antiquarian. 

 

The Adherents of Aleynikov are tied to the history of Nadine Aleynikov, one of the legendary missionaries introduced in the first chapter. They are itinerant faith healers and physicians.

 

The Red Consecrators are similar to the Redemptionist, although they follow the teachings of Genevieve Almace, another of the legendary missionaries. They are zealous warrior monks who "view battle as an expression of faith."

 

The Order Of The Hammer are followers of Nicomedes Keefe, again, introduced in the first chapter. and are drawn from the hermitage of Foulstone. They too are itinerants, but they value wisdom, knowledge and information and seek to aid the expansion of fledgling Imperial colonies. 

 

Any of those allowed to the Astropath Career?



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:35 PM

 

 

drats, there goes my hope of a starship sized flamer...lol.

 

 

 

What the book doesn't have, however, is much in the way of new starship options. (In fact, it may not have any, but I'm hedging here in case I missed one in the equipment section or a sidebar somewhere!) This, to be fair, is not relevant to the character types presented though - these are characters who take journeys on other people's vessels rather than commanding their own.

 

 

Do you remember the Starfire Vents in hostile Acquisitions ? How about jury-rigging this kind of augment on plasma macrobatteries for a suitable effect... :P

 

+1


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:04 PM

hm.. Capital Size Flamers wonder if that would be extra heretical or an Orthodox way of doing Exterminatus by Starship scale use of a flamer to cleanse the unfaithful at a planetary scale.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

Storm Shields, Lightning Claws new weapon upgrades, oh and Cyclonic Missiles. The Exterminatus has arrived in Rogue Trader. eek



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:25 AM

Storm Shields, Lightning Claws new weapon upgrades, oh and Cyclonic Missiles. The Exterminatus has arrived in Rogue Trader. eek

Really?  There are human-sized lightning claws for Rogue Trader now?



#18 CaptainRemiVandigrath

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 05:33 AM

They pulled in a lot of toys and tools that would be likely to find on a well equipped explorer who has 'obtained' items from the inquisition and Eccliesarchy. There are also quite a few books and ammo with a religious bent to it. I certainly enjoyed that section a lot.

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#19 InfinityDoctor

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:10 AM

Any of those allowed to the Astropath Career?

 

 

Yup, Beastmaster, Adherent of Aleynikov and Order of the Hammer Initiate.



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:15 AM

 

Storm Shields, Lightning Claws new weapon upgrades, oh and Cyclonic Missiles. The Exterminatus has arrived in Rogue Trader. eek

Really?  There are human-sized lightning claws for Rogue Trader now?

 

Yes, but they're considered Unwieldy if you don't meet the minimum Strength Bonus...






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