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#1 Thunderforge

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:40 PM

I see that the cost of the Edge of the Empire Core Rulebook is $60 (which seems like an awful lot, given that I can buy the incredibly complex Arkham Horror for that amount). However, the unique dice don't come with the core rulebook but are necessary to play and those are an additional $15 (assuming you're all going to share one set, which I'm guessing most won't).

 

Am I right that the base cost to play Edge of the Empire is actually $75?


Edited by Thunderforge, 02 July 2013 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:45 PM

No - You can convert normal D6s, D8s and D12s to this system also: https://www.dropbox.... Dice Chart.jpg

 

Alternatively you can utilize a smartphone or tablet if you wish for $5 in place of the dice with the dice rolling app.

 

Also certain online retailers (Coolstuffinc and Miniature Market) are currently running promotions with the game and dice well below the MSRP. So allowing you to get a set of dice and book for less than the MSRP on the book.


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#3 Thunderforge

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:02 PM

Is the dice chart difficult to use? Just by looking at it, it seems like it would really slow things down when you've got a whole pool of dice. Besides, the book uses the symbols, so you'd have to back-convert as well, no? No smartphone unfortunately, so that's out (even if it wasn't, then the price would really be $65 to play).

 

It's a pity that the recommendation is to get it online; I really want to support my Friendly Local Gaming Store.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:09 PM

Is the dice chart difficult to use? Just by looking at it, it seems like it would really slow things down when you've got a whole pool of dice. Besides, the book uses the symbols, so you'd have to back-convert as well, no? No smartphone unfortunately, so that's out (even if it wasn't, then the price would really be $65 to play).

 

It's a pity that the recommendation is to get it online; I really want to support my Friendly Local Gaming Store.

Grab the sticker sheet, print it on label paper, and convert some dice.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:12 PM

It cost me $50 to play... $40 for the book, and $10 for the dice.  Lots of good deals if you take the time to look (i.e., miniaturemarket.com and coolstuffinc.com).  Most places ship free for $100, and they sell lots of games at discount prices... so if you can arrange that it would be an especially good deal.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:17 PM

Picked up my copy of the book tonight.  It is beautiful - Artwork, Layout, Content....  On of the coolest Star Wars items I have at the moment and well worth the price.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:15 AM

And 75$ is not really that much to begin with, to be honest.  DnD books can run 40 bucks a pop, and you need AT LEAST two of them, though probably more when push comes to shove. For a system that literally gives you endless possibilities, I think 75 bucks is completely reasonable.

Especially if you get your 5 or 6 friends that are typically going to play it to help chip in!  Joint purchases make it even cheaper.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:16 AM

Gotta ask, but have you bought an RPG before? There is a bit of a difference between an RPG and a boardgame. I enjoy boardgames too, but I could buy Risk or Monopoly for less than either Star Wars or Arkham Horror. The fact that both run about the same doesn't denote their value one way or another as their value is going to be relative. I would get much more value out of an RPG that I spend $60 on than I would out of a boardgame. If it is the cost, as others have already noted, there are less expensive options. What is the issue?


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:33 AM

In modern terms, $75 isn't bad.  You could look at alternatives:

 

  • Dungeons & Dragons: 3 core books @ $35 plus dice at $5 = $110.
  • Pathfinder: core rulebook for $50 plus bestiary for $40 plus dice at $5 = $95.
  • Shadowrun 5th Edition: core rulebook for $60 plus dice $5 = $65.
  • Any Warhammer 40K Setting: core rulebook $60 plus dice $5 = $65.
  • GURPS: Characters book $40 plus Campaign cook $35 = $75 (if you loot your board games for D6s, otherwise add about $5).
  • Savage Worlds: Explorer Edtion rulebook $10 plus dice $5 = $15.

 

So $75 really isn't that much in comparison to closely equivalent systems.  Before you decide to go by Savage Worlds as the cheapest, remember you won't have any source material for Star Wars... so add costs/time for that.  If you purchased all the generic splat books (ex. Droids, Starships, Species, etc.), well, you are right back at $75 plus.

 

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:42 AM

It's been discussed before (elsewhere at least), people will pay $$$ when going to the theatre/cinema, for videogames, themeparks, whatnot... often quite a lot for much less entertainment and for a shorter amount of time than a session playing a roleplaying game. I guess its priorities and some constructed notion of how much $XX is in one context compared to another.

 

It's not cheap as a one time expense no, but considering how many hours of fun you (most likely) will have, compared to videogames, movies or even board games, I think its pretty ok, perhaps even cheap... in the long run.

 

But in respons to your question, yes its $75 to get the game with proper dice.


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:30 AM

Gotta ask, but have you bought an RPG before? There is a bit of a difference between an RPG and a boardgame. I enjoy boardgames too, but I could buy Risk or Monopoly for less than either Star Wars or Arkham Horror. The fact that both run about the same doesn't denote their value one way or another as their value is going to be relative. I would get much more value out of an RPG that I spend $60 on than I would out of a boardgame. If it is the cost, as others have already noted, there are less expensive options. What is the issue?

 

Heh... and you're not even bringing in board games like Small World ($60 MSRP) and Agricola ($70 MSRP).  Once you get outside the game isle at Target or Walmart, then you're in the domain of an expensive hobby.

 

And yeah, granted, I'm looking at the RPG books on my shelf, and my beloved D6 Star Wars Roleplaying Game 2nd Edition Revised and Expanded was only $30 cover price... but some things have changed since 1996.

 

I did a price per page evaluation and after accounting for inflation it's still more expensive, but not that much more expensive.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:30 AM

And 75$ is not really that much to begin with, to be honest.  DnD books can run 40 bucks a pop, and you need AT LEAST two of them, though probably more when push comes to shove. For a system that literally gives you endless possibilities, I think 75 bucks is completely reasonable.

Especially if you get your 5 or 6 friends that are typically going to play it to help chip in!  Joint purchases make it even cheaper.

 

Truth!

 

Much was made about FFG selling the Warhammer 3E boxed set at 100$, but that one box is the only thing the entire campaign needs. It had materials for all the players, the GM, and lots of tokens and cards and the custom dice. With D&D, you often have hundreds of dollars worth of books and materials around the table, but since you buy that stuff piecemeal nobody nobotices the total price.

 

I realize there's a bit of sticker shock with some of FFG's products, but look at the big picture and you'll find is not that expensive at all compared to other popular RPG products,



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:48 AM

 With D&D, you often have hundreds of dollars worth of books and materials around the table, but since you buy that stuff piecemeal nobody nobotices the total price.

 

To be fair, one only needs the Player's Handbook, DMs Guide and Monster Manual for D&D. I spent much of my youth using just those books to run my campaigns. But that still amounts to more than $60.


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#14 Jegergryte

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 07:53 AM

To me it boils down to thinking of it as an investment rather than an expense... if that makes sense. I think its the most sensible approach. :ph34r:


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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:04 AM

With D&D, you often have hundreds of dollars worth of books and materials around the table, but since you buy that stuff piecemeal nobody nobotices the total price.

To be fair, one only needs the Player's Handbook, DMs Guide and Monster Manual for D&D. I spent much of my youth using just those books to run my campaigns. But that still amounts to more than $60.

$90 if we're talking actual cover price.
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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:23 AM

$75 got me a Core Book, GM kit, and 3 extra sets of dice. Compared to the money I dropped into WHFR and Shadowrun over the last year that's an outstanding bargin for a game I plan on running for several years. I know there will be additional supplement costs, but really if you take a moment to dig around you can get in the door relatively inexpensively. 



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:53 AM

Also, it should be noted that you should not pay full price for this game unless you don't know how the internet works. I gotrule book for $38 + shipping at Miniature Market.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:21 AM

Some may certainly choose to pay full price, particularly as some will steadfastly support their FLGS rather than pay a cheaper price online.  I often do so... but with so much money on the table I probably won't in this instance.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:21 AM


Also, it should be noted that you should not pay full price for this game unless you don't know how the internet works. I gotrule book for $38 + shipping at Miniature Market.

 

Which is why many people don't have a FLGS. Don't forget to support your Friendly Local Gaming Store, nothing like being able to add a last minute set of dice or map.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:33 AM

I'll be getting mine through my FLGS. The least I can do as I play there and he saves stuff like the free adventure for me.


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