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#61 DrNate

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:45 AM

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Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 



#62 Toqtamish

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:49 AM

DrNate said:

Ulairi said:

 

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

 

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

 

at the same time Bail exists in the time of the classic trilogy until Alderaan is destroyed and obviously they would base it off the only actor who played him in any of the movies. 



#63 MarthWMaster

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:06 PM

DrNate said:

 

Ulairi said:

 

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

 

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

 

 

Watch a Let's Play of The Force Unleashed. Bail Organa is a major figure in that game, and he is very much portrayed in Jimmy Smits' likeness. The Force Unleashed takes place only a couple years prior to the trilogy, making it a reasonable inclusion in this quasi-continuity thing they've got going for the card game.



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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:13 AM

MarthWMaster said:

DrNate said:

 

Ulairi said:

 

Do FFG even have the rights to the preqeuls?

 

 

 

Probably. The Edge of Darkness page shows a Bail Organa card, whick looks exactly like Jimmy Smits. Bail may have appeared in EU, but not Jimmy Smits. 

 

 

Watch a Let's Play of The Force Unleashed. Bail Organa is a major figure in that game, and he is very much portrayed in Jimmy Smits' likeness. The Force Unleashed takes place only a couple years prior to the trilogy, making it a reasonable inclusion in this quasi-continuity thing they've got going for the card game.

AND it is one of the only EU stories that are 100% Lucas approved



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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

OMG I just realized I can never play this again I played a deck that destroyed the timeline and it's in the core set- Obi Wan and Ewoks! That is impossible and makes no sense NERRRDRRRAGEE



#66 The Empire Brings Sexy Back

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:40 AM

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:47 AM

The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

 

I disagree, those cards represent people still loyal to the ideals of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order but are not actual Jedi themselves and are not prequel era cards. We have not seen any prequel stuff yet and if we ever do it is not for a while yet.



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:33 AM

Toqtamish said:

The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

 

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

 

 

 

I disagree, those cards represent people still loyal to the ideals of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order but are not actual Jedi themselves and are not prequel era cards. We have not seen any prequel stuff yet and if we ever do it is not for a while yet.

That is obviously Jar Jar in CC casino. Sorry



#69 MarthWMaster

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:06 AM

Not necessarily Jar Jar, but definitely a Gungan. I don't know; I just prefer to not think of the worst character in the Star Wars saga as sharing an objective set with Han.



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

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#71 The Empire Brings Sexy Back

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:44 AM

Toqtamish said:

The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

 

Cards like Guardian of the Peace, Twi'lek Loyalist, and some of the other generic jedi are clearly prequel-era cards in my eyes.  Those characters would all be dead by OT-era times.  I think that's proof enough that you could introduce prequel material to this game without creating nightmare rules issues, and without leading to a player/fanboy revolt.

 

 

 

I disagree, those cards represent people still loyal to the ideals of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order but are not actual Jedi themselves and are not prequel era cards. We have not seen any prequel stuff yet and if we ever do it is not for a while yet.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

That's one way to interpret those cards, and of course we're all perfectly entitled to our own interpretations, but that's just what they are, interpretations.  I may think they they are prequel cards, while you think they are OT-era cards, but we don't know for sure.  The point is, FFG could come out tomorrow and say that those cards ARE prequel era cards, and then boom there are prequel cards in SWLCG, and have been since Day 1.  And things would continue on normally and we'd all still continue playing.  So bring on the gungans I say!



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

Emperor Palpatine and Yoda are both featured quite strongly in the Prequels, to say nothing of Obi-Wan, but nobody has mentioned these yet!

Guardian of Peace looks suspciously like the Dark Woman to me, and while she is a prequel-era figure, she's eventually killed by Vader sometime around the Galactic Civil War (if that Tales story is to be believed). But so many Jedi have survived into the Dark Times and beyond that it's hard to see just how effective Order 66 actually was. Given the artwork on the specific cards mentioned, though, they are wearing Jedi robes strongly reminiscent of the prequel-era Jedi, which does argue strongly that they are 'prequel-era cards', but unless we get cards that are specifically 'Mace Windu' or 'Qui-Gon Jinn', I don't think it'll take too much imagination to see that they are all meant to be Jedi in Hiding, but have been given different labels and artwork to make the game a touch more interesting. 

Personally, I would quite like to see K'kruhk, Ferus Olin, Shaak Ti and maybe even Quinlan Vos show up in this faction - without thinking we're branching out into the prequels. 


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:32 AM

cooleo1c said:

 

AND it is one of the only EU stories that are 100% Lucas approved

 

Not only one, but Shadows of the Empire ;)



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:15 AM

spalanzani said:

 

Personally, I would quite like to see K'kruhk, Ferus Olin, Shaak Ti and maybe even Quinlan Vos show up in this faction - without thinking we're branching out into the prequels. 

 

 

Shaak Ti would be a smooth addition. And she can stay non-prequel if she has to, because I'm very much onboard with there being a LS objective that includes a rancor.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:07 PM

MarthWMaster said:

spalanzani said:

 

Personally, I would quite like to see K'kruhk, Ferus Olin, Shaak Ti and maybe even Quinlan Vos show up in this faction - without thinking we're branching out into the prequels. 

 

 

Shaak Ti would be a smooth addition. And she can stay non-prequel if she has to, because I'm very much onboard with there being a LS objective that includes a rancor.

I have a soft spot for Felucia, and I regard that whole portion of The Force Unleashed as its one redeeming feature, so would greatly appreciate seeing anything from that cropping up in this game. Maris Brood, rancors, Felucian shaman, sarlacc - oh, be still my heart! 


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#76 Dargone

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:34 PM

Exactly. It's about gameplay anyway…



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:57 AM

I know a lot of people dislike episodes I,II,and III for their flaws, but I love a lot of Prequel-era characters, so im definately in favor of them making cards based on them. I agree with the people who say it should just be two new factions, maybe with some ability to discourage mixing of eras or something. EIther that or they could create another core set with different win cons (no death star dial in the prequels, maybe some order 66 counters or something). They would have the same base mechanics and backs so they COULD be mixed by geeky people like me who like cannonically improbabble battles, but tournement-wise they wouldn't be mixed. By the same token I really hope that we get some expansions for the new sequel trilogy. I mean if they have the rights it would be a shame to pass up such a marketing gold mine. 



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:31 AM

I don't understand how those people who want prequel era and OT-era stuff to remain separate and never mix together can be cool with stuff in the LCG like Yoda fighting a TIE fighter like Backstabber.  How can one be cool and the other horrid?  Don't they both conflict with your internal ruleset that says only things that actually happened in Star Wars should be allowed to happen in-game (even though Star Wars is fiction and didn't really happen)?



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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

The Empire Brings Sexy Back said:

 

I don't understand how those people who want prequel era and OT-era stuff to remain separate and never mix together can be cool with stuff in the LCG like Yoda fighting a TIE fighter like Backstabber.  How can one be cool and the other horrid?  Don't they both conflict with your internal ruleset that says only things that actually happened in Star Wars should be allowed to happen in-game (even though Star Wars is fiction and didn't really happen)?

 

 

Putting aside the "cinematic gameplay" of SWLCG that allows situations like Yoda vs. "Backstabber" to make thematic sense, you're asking why these are more acceptable than, say, Darth Maul vs. Princess Leia?

I'll try to answer this as best I can. Note that I am in favor of seeing the game expand into other eras. I'm posting this only because I believe I understand the contrary position as well.

While Yoda never fought "Backstabber" during the films or expanded universe continuity, he very well could have. I can easily see a Jedi Master casting his lot with the Rebel Alliance and aiding the fight against the Imperials. In the saga, though, he remains on Dagobah to await the arrival of those who wished to learn from him, which is perhaps the better use of his talents, a fact which is reflected in the game by the fact that Yoda is generally more effective as someone to fight in the Force struggle, rather than attacking or defending objectives.

On the flipside, Leia wasn't born until after Maul's demise. The fight could still occur, but only if one assumes drastic changes to established lore (I've explained how this could work in a previous post). The farther apart in continuity the cards in question become, the more of a thematic issue it becomes. There is no possible way that Darth Malak could have fought Mara Jade, no matter how awesome such a match-up might be. 

So it really depends on whether you're willing to dispense with continuity for the sake of the game. Honestly, SWLCG's gameplay is abstract enough that I don't think any particular case would faze me, and I'm about as Nedly as you can get with regard to playstyle. But keep in mind that unlike A Game of Thrones, which prior to the HBO series was responsible for leading much of its playerbase to the source material, and not the other way around, the majority of players are playing this game because of their love for Star Wars, and that is going to affect how they view certain elements of the game, be it rancors fighting capital ships, or Jedi dueling across time.



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 03:14 PM

Everybody talks about the fact that it is impossible for certain battle to occur- it doesn't matter. Star Wars: The Card Game is an ultimate What If? of possibilities, and one that I enjoy immensely. I love playing the game and watching as my friend pulls out Devastator and the only defender is an Ewok Scout. I was put on the floor laughing when the Ewok Scout stole Vader's lightsaber. All things are possible in a game like this. I personaly would like to see the inclusion of the Prequil Trilogy into the game, I may not enjoy the dialog in those films, but there are characters (Jar Jar Binks, Kit Fisto, Plo Koon) to name a few that I have come to love and cherish. Even the Thrawn Trilogy is quintisential to what is Star Wars and I doubt Disney would disrupt such a beloved set of books. Thrawn's Trilogy paved the way for the reemergance of Star Wars in this day and age. Yes there had been an RPG by West End Games and a few Video Games. But Star Wars had been for the most part such a niche, and when the prequels arrived, Star Wars as we know it changed all the rules. I read earlier taht there was an issue with Vader fighting Anakin. This is a non-issue, just use your imagination and imagine PROXY from the Force Unleashed in all those disguises.     Regardless of what happens, I still want my Jar Jar Binks card.    Also, some mentioned the idea of Sticking with the current sick affiliations (I agree) all you need is flavor text to reference New Republic or Old Republic, or even Separatists. But we need Thrawn, Jar Jar (he can be one heck of menace), Palleaon, Mara Jade, Tallon Karrde, The Secret Apprenctice, Revan, Asoka. They are characters that fuel fanboys and girls alike.






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