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#21 Tom O' Bedlam

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

Yeah, it was the Russian chick in the KBA suit and something of hers conflicted with an ability of Hoss'. I'd have to go dig up my equipment cards to see what the deal was but because of the wording on both we weren't sure who's took precedence and things fell apart from there.



#22 Dorianvd

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:38 PM

Hi

 

I was just wondering: has the revised edition fixed the lucky roll termination?

I have played this game twice and while this was several years ago I seem to recall some broken things.

The greatest reason to not like this game is represented by this example: character rolls a natural 10, special rule with that weapon kicks in, if the defender does not make a certain roll this results in his/her/it's death.

That's just broken, makes strategies redundant and depends on random luck. I cannot read the reference card sheet put on by that one poster. They are too blurry to read when I zoom in.  :)

 

Thanks Dorian



#23 Dorianvd

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:19 AM

Hi

 

I was just wondering: has the revised edition fixed the lucky roll termination?

I have played this game twice and while this was several years ago I seem to recall some broken things.

The greatest reason to not like this game is represented by this example: character rolls a natural 10, special rule with that weapon kicks in, if the defender does not make a certain roll this results in his/her/it's death.

That's just broken, makes strategies redundant and depends on random luck. I cannot read the reference card sheet put on by that one poster. They are too blurry to read when I zoom in.  :)

 

Thanks Dorian

Three months later still no response... It's my most important issue with the game and I haven't found an answer to it yet.

This topic already dead?



#24 Jernmajoren

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:49 PM

I bought it recently and find it good and money well spend..

 

@Dorianvd

For any game that has dice luck will allways be a factor, especially with limited number of characters where each death has huge impact.

I have only played the current edition and personally didnt find it to be an issue, but if you want to limit the luck factor you can always try playing without special rules for items (apart from basic items), maybe that will make it more interesting for you.

However a lot of the strategy in this games is based on taking risks imo so personally i prefere the current system to a more basic one.



#25 Dorianvd

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 05:01 PM

Thank you for your response, butI'm afraid my answer is still not answered.  :)

Are the one hit wonders gone in the equipment? = > I thought it was really ridiculous that for example the heavy gunner would kill someone rolling a 10 if the opponent didn't roll a 10 as well. There were other characters as well that could equip this ridiculous overpowered equipment. I have almost no abstract games in my game collection, so I'm not bothered by the luck and randomness of dice: I like rolling dice. I just don't like overpowered abilities that ruin the fun for everyone and are no brainers that ruin the gameplay for me.



#26 Moebius

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 06:23 AM

Thank you for your response, butI'm afraid my answer is still not answered.  :)

Are the one hit wonders gone in the equipment? = > I thought it was really ridiculous that for example the heavy gunner would kill someone rolling a 10 if the opponent didn't roll a 10 as well. There were other characters as well that could equip this ridiculous overpowered equipment. I have almost no abstract games in my game collection, so I'm not bothered by the luck and randomness of dice: I like rolling dice. I just don't like overpowered abilities that ruin the fun for everyone and are no brainers that ruin the gameplay for me.

 

Yes it has been fixed, rolling a 0 now lets you roll 2 extra dice but no more insta-kill, its still a fearsome weapon but not as deadly. New mechanics such as overwatch and command points also helped balancing that.

 

I recommend the purchase, the only thing I don't have are the epic expansion figures.

 

There are also some home rules widely used that add to the game as well, you could look at artemus maximus home rules in BGG and also at miah's FAQ in this forum to complete rounding up the ruleset :-)



#27 Dorianvd

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 07:37 AM

Thank you! That reply really adressed my concerns about the original game. Now I can purchase the revised rules with a clear mind and start again from there.



#28 Moebius

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 10:21 AM

Welcome :-)

 

For faster replies I would advise you to check the BGG forums, these are more active than this one.



#29 Wade Watts

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:51 AM

I bought this game when it was new because I liked the theme. Got together with a friend who was equally excited, we even started speaking in accents and imagining we were the characters.

 

Then we tried to read the rules. 

 

That was where we left it. 

 

I traded it in at my FLGS and got a mint copy of the AD&D 2nd Edition Core Rules set for Dark Sun campaign setting. It was worth it. 






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