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#21 mutineer

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:24 AM

Hi there,

I am fairly new to the game and I support fully what Teo wrote. Me and my friends has joined the WHI gang a while back and I can say I am transforming from casual player to tournament one. And I love both forms of playing this great game. But the concerns that Teo pointed out are not only concerns of old-time pro gamers but also young guns and occasional players. Combo's are killing all the fun and so cards that allow them should be modified, simple as that. As for the battlepacks, me and my friends are very content to see few deluxe packs per year instead of small one each month. As someone wrote before in this thread - it's a matter of taste - but with the deluxe packs every race will have the same quality of cards (hopefully) at the same time. An lastly, I would love to take part in European Championship although I need to train some more:)



#22 Sigurdur42

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:25 AM

Hi,

I am from germany and I support everything Theo wrote. 

I also think, that special starter decks would be a nice idea - two decks that new players could buy, play and use as starting point. This would ease the first contact :)

Ciao

Michael



#23 borg029un03

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:33 AM

Hi,

I'm from Germany too, and I support every Point of Theos Post.



#24 Teokrata

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:10 AM

THX dudes, We can do it! I have more support from Germany, Italy and France than from Poland… its a shame…



#25 GambitGrelfer

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:20 AM

 Hi. I'm from Poland like Teo.

I would add another point to this list.

Organize in your countries rankings of players! Bigger society of players bigger the business of ffg in keeping them satisfied, and ranking is great tool to do that. Poland wouldn't have so many players without it. And yes, I think that ranking = more active players.

Every month battlepack expansions are problem in Poland, because in every major city there is at least one tournament in the week. Im sure, that someone, with good car and some determination (addiction…), could do 7 tournaments in one week in our country (participate). 

I hope I didn't make terrible mistakes

Teo, you're an evil pain in the ass. I hope your participation wont be like: "Hey, let;s go together and then someone will do it".



#26 Majorek

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:44 AM

 Hi, I'm also supporting this request, especially when it comes to organization of European Championships and I hope THIS will have some impact on FFG.



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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:10 AM

 100% support for the idea!



#28 thorondor

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:22 PM

Teokrata said:

unfortunately thats true, We cannot get the common language with FFG, so the next European Championships (2012) will be probably another fail side event…

there is a european championship 2012?

in case you are talking about the tournament held at stahleck on 18th nov, that is definately not to be considered a european championship event. that was never the idea, its just a possibility for AGOT players to stray a little bit. and of course local WHI players are welcome as well. its the same for COC (there HAS been a Euro at a different place!) and ANET. nothing more, nothing less.

i totally support the idea of having international organized play in europe. why not in poalnd, where the community is strong and ethusiastic? i daresay i had my part in why ffg was talking with polish players about having Euro there. but only in the beginning - i have no idea what went wrong and why things didnt evolve.

WHI Euro wasnt an option for stahleck this year, mostly for 2 reasons: AGOT became too big to have 2 events at the same time there. secondly: it wouldnt do justice to WHI to have WHI Euro besides AGOT. it would always look like a "side event".

i dont have the time and energy to organize a second event like for AGOT at caslte stahleck. and nobody else stepped in (for whatever reason). it was a first step in 2011, alas not continued in 2012. but i really hope it can be picked up in 2013, otherwise it will go downwards soon enough i fear.

thus, i also support teos agenda.

 



#29 Gothik

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:45 PM

100% support for all Teo`s points.



#30 sherpa74

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:16 AM

Hello everybody, i'm the spanish regional champion and i stay in the world's having a great time, playing cards and meeting such a good players from around the world, the shame was that we could not play more rounds, but maybe we did not have the time.

Congratulations to the new World champion ( he wins also Netrunner) and thanks to TL, i'm proud that you liked my deck, i spent several days testing diferent options via octgn, and in the last week i found my game, making some changes to stop Chaos,Bloodburn poison to kill Marauders, and including units with more HP to rest longer in play, also the Promenade of Malice can bring  powerful control game with a little luck.I include some cards to try to stop HE combo like Egathrond ( to destroy developments), and Frenzied witch Elf and Maranith, that can mill the eagles or the legend from the deck, but i did not meet any of the winning decks in my course. I lost my only game against the german champion, who plays a unespected chaos deck, with some atachments that enter the game for free via Northern forge, wich speeds his deck very much, and playing ancient map to search for the Beastman incursion quest,(such a good card) and also disturbs my game with spoils of war, i usually do not atack in the first turns and the early play of spoils change my kind of play.

And my best regards to Michal  who shared my  room (and the reading of Terry Pratchett's novels), and to the US guys, Steve, Leon, Adam, and … sorry i don't remember all their names, who make me feel very comfort.

I support Teokrata's thoughts, and we have seen that his predictions about the world championship's winning decks were right. I think the same by myself but don't want to play this kind of decks, is no good for the game itself and not very funny.

About to organice an European Championship of Warhammer Invasion i'm completely agree, but who will manage the event? This event can be great and to organice something like this must be a thought work, and need to be prepared in advance for some months, in my case i would need a long time to prepare a tryp to another country and many players will have the same problem.



#31 giangi451

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:43 AM

I'm an Italian player of WHI and I entirely support the post of Teokrata.



#32 Hyperfox

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:35 AM

Teokrata is right about everything. I am part of the Italian Community and I often referee at tournaments in Milan. In Italy, the biggest problem is access to the game by new players. I ask the FFG support this game because it's fantastic and in Europe there are many enthusiasts.

Vamos!



#33 Giami

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:11 AM

I'am italian Player and i support all Teo`s points !!!



#34 filku

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

 I'm a Polish player and I 100% support Teo's post.



#35 .Crux.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:26 PM

 +1 vote for Teo and + 1 for the German community counter. :)



#36 Teokrata

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:00 AM

.Crux. said:

 +1 vote for Teo and + 1 for the German community counter. :)

It is very nice to see how many players from Europe want to keep Invasion "alive"! I have some ideas about international tournaments in Europe, but it is too early to speak about that… by the way - where are players not from Poland, Germany, Italy or France? Where are players from USA? Jeremy?



#37 Tubbyfu

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:05 AM

Teokrata said:

.Crux. said:

 

 +1 vote for Teo and + 1 for the German community counter. :)

 

 

It is very nice to see how many players from Europe want to keep Invasion "alive"! I have some ideas about international tournaments in Europe, but it is too early to speak about that… by the way - where are players not from Poland, Germany, Italy or France? Where are players from USA? Jeremy?

+1 for more support in Canada .. My friends and I are really into the game, but we're a small playgroup (4 people) .. one of my local stores stopped carrying up to date battlepacks and had to special order them for me from their supplier.

on the bright side: The other store only carrys one or two packs and sells out immediately, so somebody must be playing besides us .. but w/ lack of organized play its hard to find these other people who play the game around here



#38 Teokrata

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

When I heard good opinions about rules for new LCGs - Netrunner & Star Wars I am sure that in FFG are people skilled and talented to form good and clear rules for card games. So… I have one more point to my manifest about the future of Warhammer Invasion!

5. revised rulebook (with FAQ) - FAQ 2.0 is probably comming with some important changes and rules explanation for the new Cycle. I think that Warhammer Invasion evolved from core set rulebook far enough to update it and create revised rulebook, including new FAQ. After 30 battlepacks and 3 deluxe expansions, some important rules are now in FAQ, others are still in rulebook, players must search both, what is extremly unfriendly for the new players. If we want more players, if we want new players, there should be also new edition of rulebook. ;-)



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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

Teokrata said:

 

5. revised rulebook (with FAQ) - FAQ 2.0 is probably comming with some important changes and rules explanation for the new Cycle. I think that Warhammer Invasion evolved from core set rulebook far enough to update it and create revised rulebook, including new FAQ. After 30 battlepacks and 3 deluxe expansions, some important rules are now in FAQ, others are still in rulebook, players must search both, what is extremly unfriendly for the new players. If we want more players, if we want new players, there should be also new edition of rulebook. ;-)

 

 

I have asked for this a few times, and have already basically written one.  They seem pretty committed to the current Rulebook and FAQ concept.  I think for now the community is stuck with just my Condensed Rulebook and FAQ

Going forward, Torsten and I have talked about taking the Rulebook, FAQ, and Deckbox Rules Summary and just combining them into one master document.  Without FFG's official stamp though, its debatable how much it would be used by the community.  I don't know if anyone even uses the current Condensed Rulebook (aside from me), and it contains nothing but copy/paste of FFGs rulebook and FAQ.



#40 Teokrata

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

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I have asked for this a few times, and have already basically written one.  They seem pretty committed to the current Rulebook and FAQ concept.  I think for now the community is stuck with just my Condensed Rulebook and FAQ

Going forward, Torsten and I have talked about taking the Rulebook, FAQ, and Deckbox Rules Summary and just combining them into one master document.  Without FFG's official stamp though, its debatable how much it would be used by the community.  I don't know if anyone even uses the current Condensed Rulebook (aside from me), and it contains nothing but copy/paste of FFGs rulebook and FAQ.

 

 

for example Blood Bowl rules changes many times, FFG changes rulebook and rules for few games too, In my opinion it is part of the game's "living" aspect. For now FAQ is so big, that concept of rulebook + FAQ with some answers and errata don't work as good as for other games.

New, revised rulebook is a part of my new core set and/or starter decks idea for the beginners to make Invasion easier to begin with and more popular with more clear rules.






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