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Would the Inquisition best be comparied to the CIA ( or KGB, or Mossad, or ISI?)


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#21 Adeptus-B

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 12:44 PM

There is a whole section about 'Denunciations' being declared against Inquisitors in the Radical's Handbook.



#22 FieserMoep

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:07 PM

Yes and there a books where an inquisitor shot another on sight.

 

The rules of denuntiation are only important if you are weaker than those who defend this rules and set them up.

And yes, as an Inquisitor you always follow the rules of stronger inquisitors unless you have your own independence and power base.

 

The rules exist because there are some peple who say they are rules and who can punish you if you dont obey them. The meaning of such rules is to keep balance, but tho whose favor? Well, atleast for the Lord Inquisitor… his power base.



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Posted 29 September 2012 - 06:28 PM

I think it's been rather well discussed by now, but I'll weigh in with my opinion, if only that.

My answer to the titular question is an unequivocal no. The Inquisition bears little resemblance to any modern intelligence organisation; their members have essentially unlimited power, have no code of conduct or set of governing laws and no external oversight. They can topple regimes and install ones that suit their purposes almost at will and order the destruction of entire worlds, and are policed by solely by their own when they do so.

Basically, they make real world spooks look like high-minded guardians of peace and justice, lol.



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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:00 AM

Everything FieserMoep said is pretty much spot on.


Except its the Ordo Malleus that makes a habit of policing the Inquisitions ranks. Probably because it was around before the Ordo Hereticus by about 5000 years, and also probably because that rogue Inquisitors and Acolytes are not normal heretics, but the ones most likely to be wielding tainted warp energies, and consorting with the kind of dark powers that the Malleus specializes with.

 

Also the simple fact that it's absolutely retarded for anyone to believe that an Ordo will only look for problems of their own specialty to deal with (demons, aliens, or heretics), and just pass a note on to their colleague, who will surely get around to it properly and in time, for anything outside. Or even more ludicrously, just ignore it.



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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:50 AM

Blood Pact said:

 

Also the simple fact that it's absolutely retarded for anyone to believe that an Ordo will only look for problems of their own specialty to deal with (demons, aliens, or heretics), and just pass a note on to their colleague, who will surely get around to it properly and in time, for anything outside. Or even more ludicrously, just ignore it.

The Ordo are loose alliances of like-minded Inquisitors, who work together due to shared interests. If someone is in the Ordo Xenos it's because he is more interested in hunting aliens than heretics, if he's in the Ordo Malleus it's because he fears (or is intrigued by) the forces of the warp. By definition this means that a member of an Ordo is going to focus his attention on his area of expertise - otherwise he would be a member of another Ordos (or none at all). Whether he will investigate, pass on or ignore other threats depends on the Inquisitor in question and how he views that threat. A member of the Ordo Xenos might ignore a heretical cult on Scintilla because he doesn't think it is important, instead focusing on the smuggling of xenos artifacts. Alternatively he might send some acolytes or an Interrogator to investigate, or just tell an ally in the Ordo Hereticus about it. Or he might decide to use them, providing them with funds and support, helping them to grow to a decent size, placing one of his acolytes into a position of power within the cult - all so that he can use them to ferret out his true prey, the agents of the Cold Trade. He'll use the cult to purchase alien weapons, allowing him to learn more about the black market. He might never consider the possibility that the cult could becomes a threat to the Imperium, seeing them as an insignificant problem compared to his own obsession.

Other Inquisitors, while members of one Ordo, might have an interest in all threats, being only slightly more focused on one. Such an Inquisitor would probably just crush the cult and move on to the next problem.



#26 Huros

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:42 PM

bogi_khaosa said:

 

Yeah, no real-world secret service has ever had this level of power.

 

 

 

What about the East German Stazi? 

 

That said, my group is more like the Monty Python Inquisition…..



#27 FieserMoep

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:10 AM

Its Stasi for Staatssicherheit, beside their methods and some personel they had nothing in common with Nazis. ;)

But even the Stasi is quite harmless in comparsion. Yes, they might know everything about you, might have infiltrated your circle of friends and but you into prison if you act against the government (or even let you disappear which was quite uncommon). They might even shoot you but thats pretty much all they did "beside" spreading some fear and terror. But even the Stasi had some morals (I know, hard to believe) and they had some strict ranks.

The methods of the stasi would be an example of how an Inquisitor might work while he tries to infiltrate for example the nobility of a hive. The first step is to find some dirty secrets about you to blackmail you (or simply forces you to by his power) to spy on your friends/family. After you brough him some evidence he forces those you have betrayed to do the same and so on… quite a nice snowball-effect. And if someone does not do what he want him to do, let him disapear, let him be a warning to the others. Though the Stasi was feared openly an Inquisitor would perhaps be some more subtle.






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