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#41 ElricOfMelnibone

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:08 PM

No worry, Xamusel. I just need feedback, because If I have to re-do something, I prefer to know, but I'm happy that my techniques satisfy your needs.

 

NOW to Sidisessinu:

Kage no Kuroku has a couple BIG problems:

Additional Defenses are Light Effects (so they can't be chosen in a school which has Air/Darkness elemental binding).

Predetermined Defense are Light/Water/Earth Effects (so again...).

The only two defensive effects with either Air or Darkness binding are Dodge Bonus, Complete Dodge Bonus, or Limited Dodge Bonus...now if you want to couple the technique with Counterattack, you have to rule-out Limited Dodge Bonus...anyway, having a Complete Dodge Bonus is somewhat similar to having

additional defenses (actually you nullify the malus for the first additional defense and strongly limit that from the second).

My proposal is:

Kage no Kuroku

Level 1

Effects: +40 Complete Dodge (20), +40 Counterattack (10), Maintained (10)

Disadvantages Elemental Binding Air/Darkness (-10)

STR10 (Mant.3) / POW10 (Mant.3) / WIL10 (Mant.3)

MK: 30

 

Like this the technique is perfectly balanced in both cost and maintenance and has fairly nice MK cost. Note that althow the +40 bonus to Dodge apllies to all dodges you make in a single turn, the +40 Counterattack only applies to a single counterattack.



#42 Sidisessinu

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:32 PM

Ah so that is what the element listing for each option is for, thanks Elric. Now with that in mind I went back and redid the lvl1 and lvl2 ranged techniques as well as another one and made the final technique in this school. All total there are 9 techniques, here are the final 7:

 

Kage no Ame (Shadow Rain)

Lvl:1 MK:40

The character focus his Ki to create a barrage of Kunai to assault his foes. Creates up to 10 +5 Kunai and provides 5 additional attacks.

POW: 15 DEX: 15 WIL: 15

Effect: Creates up to 10 +5 Kunai, limited additional attacks (+5)

Disadvantage: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air)


Kura Senko (Dark Lightning)

Lvl: 1 MK: 20

The character summons forth the dark energy from with-in and releases it upon hi foes. Causes a long distance attack in the form of black lightning. The attack causes damage equal to 2 times the character’s base press plus their power bonus. Also does electrical damage. The techniques has a predetermined attack of 240.

POW: 10 WIL: 10 DEX: 10

Effect: Long distance attack with attack of 240, Damage: 2x base presence plus Pow bonus, Elemental Attack Electricity.

Disadvantage: Elemental binding (Darkness/Air)


Kurai Arashi (Dark Storm)

Lvl:1 MK: 30

Same as Kura Senko but produces multiple bolts of lightning.

POW: 11 WIL: 11 DEX: 11

Effect: Multi long distance attack with attack of 240, Damage: 2x base presence plus Pow bonus, Elemental Attack Electricity.

Disadvantage: Elemental binding (Darkness/Air)


Dia Kura Senko (Great Dark Lightning)

Lvl:2 MK: 70

An enhanced form of Kura Senko that does damage to everything/one between the character and the target, as well as everything/one in a 15ft radius of the target.

POW: 16 WIL: 16 DEX: 16

Effect: Long distance attack with attack of 280, Damage: 2x base plus Pow bonus, Area attack 15ft, Elemental Attack Electricity, Reduced Ki cost (1)

Disadvantage: Elemental binding (Darkness/Air)


Dia Kurai Arashi (Great Dark Storm)

Lvl:2 MK: 75

Same as Dia Kura Senko but produces multiple bolts of lightning.

POW: 18 WIL: 18 DEX: 18

Effect: Multi long distance attack with attack of 20, Damage: 2x base presence plus Pow bonus, Area Attack 15ft, Elemental Attack Electricity.

Disadvantage: Elemental binding (Darkness/Air)

 

Kurai makingu (Dark Marking)

Lvl:2 MK: 85

Once the character makes mutual visual contact with an enemy this Technique can be activated. The character creates and illusion to either distract the enemy, or make them think the Character has become invisible. The enemy must pass a PhR check of 140 to ignore the effects of the illusion. If failed the enemy is under the influence of a greater illusion for a number of minutes equal to the failure of the PhR check. Once done, the character automatically moves, if able, behind the enemy to attack. If the attack is successful and damages the enemy, the enemy is now marked with a greater brand of the character. The enemy can not be more than 30ft away and must be a humanoid for this Technique to work.

POW: 21 AGI: 21 CON: 21

Effect: Supernatural State PhR 140, Greater Illusion, Mutual visual contact, Range 30 ft; Automatic Transportation 30ft; Greater Brand

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air)
Exterminator (Humanoid)

 

Kage no Arashi (Storm of Shadows)

Lvl:3 MK:170

With this Techniques the character brings for the power of a thunder storm to decimate his foes. By focusing his Ki, the character calls for multiple bolts of lightning to strike his enemies up to 800 ft away. The lightning springs from the target’s own shadow with an attack of 440 doing  a damage of 2 times the base presence plus power bonus of the character.After striking a target, the lightning then arcs to all adjacent foes in an area with a 300ft radius. This technique is taxing on the character and causes a loss of 2 fatigue points and a penalty to all his actions. The penalty begins at -50 and reduces at a rate of 10 points per turn, this penalty can't be eliminated by supernatural or Ki means.

POW:30 WIL: 29 AGI:30

Effect: Indirect multiple long distance (800ft), multiple area attack (300ft radius), Predetermined attack of Zen (440)

Disadvantage: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air), Exhaustion (-2 fatigue points), Action Penalty (-50)

 To bad I couldn't add the damage multipliers to these techniques hmm... maybe in the next batch....

 



#43 ElricOfMelnibone

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:15 AM

First Thought: having multiple techniques with the same effect, one for a single attack and the other for multiple attack isn't an efficient way of spending the precious MK that your Ninja styled character will probably want to spend on Ki/Nemesis abilities, other than techniques. So I'd drastically resuce the number of techniques and will comment only the following. Believe it or not: it allows much better construction and growth of the character.

Second Thought: If you've chosen STR / POW / WIL to be your paying mechanism keep it, regardless of how "unconvenient" it may be. That's for the better when making technique trees and again allows much better character growth and build.

 

NOW to the techniques:

 

Kage No Ame

Lev1

Effects: Physical Ki Weapons+5 [5MK] (4-10 additional) [15MK], +5Additional Limited Attacks [30].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK].

STR11 / POW11 / WIL11

MK 40

This one's very nice like this.

 

Kurai Arashi

Lev1

Effects: Real Distance Attack 100m (2XPresence+PowBonus) [35MK], Elemental Attack Air [5MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK].

STR6 / POW6 / WIL6

MK 40

I prefer the "multiple" version of Kurai Snko, basically out of originality. You find tons of scholls that allow single distance attack, but this technique tree could be very original if it was centered on techniques modificating ALL ATTACKS in a turn made by a character, within due limits. Beware, though that the Elemental Attack effect is single-attack bound...

 

Dai (I believe "Great" in Japanese is Dai and not Dia, so I suppose yours was a typo) Kurai Arashi
Lev2

Effects: Real Distance Attack 100m (2XPresence+PowBonus) [35MK], Real Area Attack 5m [15MK], Elemental Attack Air [5MK], -1Ki [10MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK].

STR7 / POW7 / WIL7

MK 65

Again I preferred the "multiple" version, but added the "multiple" to the Area Attack Effect...otherwise making a single area attack and other "single" attacks would seam...strange to me. The thing about Elemental Attack is sadly effective also here.

 

Kurai Makingu
Lev2

Effects: Supernatural State (PhR140 [20MK], Major Illusion [15MK], Mutual Visual Contact [15MK]), Automatic Transportation 10m [5MK], Major Brand (or Seal as I used to translate it...) [25MK], -1Ki [10MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK], Exterminator (Humanoids Only) [-5MK].

STR16 / POW16 / WIL16

MK 75

I like this one. Very special...not the usual stuff we see around forums.
 

Kage no Arashi

Lev3

Effects: Lev3 Indirect Attack [30MK], Real Distance Attack 250m [45MK], Real Area Attack 100m [65], 440 Predertmined Attack [45], Elemental Attack Air [5], -1Ki [10MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK], -2Fatigues [-5MK], -50 All Action Penalty [-10MK].

STR27 / POW27 / WIL27

MK 175

First thing: I took the freedom of adding here too the Elemental Attack Air...it's flavor based, since again it's a thunderstorm based technique. I should also advise you that unfortunately the Predetermined Attack effect should work on a SINGLE attack, as well as the elemental effect (I'd bind them together, again more out of flavor than anything).

 

As a final remark: As far as the number of techniques is reduced from 9 to 7, this technique tree is really really beautiful and interesting and I'm definitely going to add it to my collection of "usable stuff" (you don't want to know how many ki techniques I've copied/modified/translated/adjusted in my pack...). Although there were big errors in cost calculation, they were pro-stuff. I hope my feedback proves useful to you anyway!

 

PS - For making a Ninja styled character, have you considered the hypotesis of using the Ninja Specialist Class (variant of Shadow) I posted on another thread (named Specialist Classes, by the way)? It's a Shadow with more MK and less notice/search, substantially. See ya!

 

PPS - I have to correct myself again: Elemental Attack is TURN based, so yes...when you make a technique with Elemetal Attack, it affects ALL ATTACK made that turn (or all attacks made with a ki weapon summoned with the same technique). BUT the Predetermined Attack remains an ACTION based effect, so it affects a single Action (Attack) per turn.



#44 ElricOfMelnibone

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 07:30 AM

Checked again:

Kurai Arashi's final MK is 30

Dai Kurai Arashi's final MK is 55

Sorry again...



#45 Sidisessinu

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 09:57 AM

Thank you so much for the assistance Elric, and yes I have considered the Specialization for Ninja that you posted in the other thread. But one thing I noticed:

Elric of Melniboné said:

Kurai Arashi

Lev1

Effects: Real Distance Attack 100m (2XPresence+PowBonus) [35MK], Elemental Attack Air [5MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK].

STR6 / POW6 / WIL6

MK 40

I prefer the "multiple" version of Kurai Snko, basically out of originality. You find tons of scholls that allow single distance attack, but this technique tree could be very original if it was centered on techniques modificating ALL ATTACKS in a turn made by a character, within due limits. Beware, though that the Elemental Attack effect is single-attack bound...

 

I thought the 35MK version on sinle distance attack was for lvl2 techniques, the max that can be done and keep it a lvl1 Tech is the one for 20MK. That was one reason I added the predetermined attack to this one to increase the MK cost above 20. So for the multi what if limited attacks and attack increase multi was added?

 

Elric of Melniboné said:

Dai (I believe "Great" in Japanese is Dai and not Dia, so I suppose yours was a typo) Kurai Arashi
Lev2

Effects: Real Distance Attack 100m (2XPresence+PowBonus) [35MK], Real Area Attack 5m [15MK], Elemental Attack Air [5MK], -1Ki [10MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK].

STR7 / POW7 / WIL7

MK 65

Again I preferred the "multiple" version, but added the "multiple" to the Area Attack Effect...otherwise making a single area attack and other "single" attacks would seam...strange to me. The thing about Elemental Attack is sadly effective also here.

 

 

Kage no Arashi

Lev3

Effects: Lev3 Indirect Attack [30MK], Real Distance Attack 250m [45MK], Real Area Attack 100m [65], 440 Predertmined Attack [45], Elemental Attack Air [5], -1Ki [10MK].

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air) [-10MK], -2Fatigues [-5MK], -50 All Action Penalty [-10MK].

STR27 / POW27 / WIL27

MK 175

 

As a final remark: As far as the number of techniques is reduced from 9 to 7, this technique tree is really really beautiful and interesting and I'm definitely going to add it to my collection of "usable stuff" (you don't want to know how many ki techniques I've copied/modified/translated/adjusted in my pack...). Although there were big errors in cost calculation, they were pro-stuff. I hope my feedback proves useful to you anyway!

 

I was thinking that the multiple area attacks would overlap their fields, thus increasing the amount of damage each enemy received.

 

But again thank you for the help.

 



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Posted 02 December 2011 - 08:35 PM

I believe too that overlapping area of effects can increase actual damage over enemies...

ONE NOTE: When I write down "Real" or "Complete" I mean "Multiple". The reason is out of habit in translating from the spanish version of Dominus Exxet.

 

The Kurai Arashi is actually a Level2 technique due to the "Multiple Distance Attack 100m"...but I just noticed it now...moreover it's a Level2 technique with MK cost 30...which isn't possible...

Best solution would be reducing the range of Kurai Arashi to 50m: it reduces the MK cost to 20, allows it to be a Level1 technique, and the ki cost is reduced by 2 points...add one more Ki reduction (just to have all stat costs balanced) and you have MK back to 30, Range to 50 and the technique will only cost 5 / 5 / 5. Moreover, it will be a big jump onward buying Dai Kurai Arashi, giving the real "sense" of passing from a Level1 to a Level2 technique.



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Posted 03 December 2011 - 04:39 AM

All this talking about techniques has awaken again my desire to make some...here are a couple elemental techniques:

 

TOA’S THRONE:
Developed by an heir of Toa’s Blood in Baho, this school incarnates the very own concept of solidity. Developed by the fusion of the principles from many schools, including Di Quiu, Sattyagraha, and Toa Calc Rex Regis, it’s an incredibly effective combat style, which proper use is limited to those that own The Gift and can summon Stone Barriers, Magnetic Barriers as a defense and/or to those who own Toa’s Blood and are able to summon the power of the Earth Dragon Transformation.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 430.

 

STONEPUNCH
Level 1
The first technique of Toa’s Throne is a simple and effective offensive technique turning the user’s arm and weapon in an enormous fist made of stone that targets the opponent with great precision, fueled by the character’s own strength, with an increased damage output. This technique allows this character making an Earth Elemental Attack with a Predetermined Attack value of 240, and with a Damage Bonus of +50.
Effects: 240 Predetermined Attack, +50 Damage, Elemental Attack (Earth), -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth).
STR9 / CON9 / POW9
MK: 35

STONEWALL
Level 1
Stonewall is a strong defensive technique devised to protect allies against massive attacks by summoning of enormous stone walls. This technique allows the user to make an Block roll with a bonus of +90 to his final ability stopping any attack directed within 10m of the user.
Effects: 10m Area Block, +90 Block, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth).
STR7 / CON7 / POW7
MK: 45

EARTHGRAB
Level 2
By manipulating his own supernatural shield, the user of this technique manages to raise the earth to wrap around the body of the opponent, crushing it. This technique allows making a single Elemental Earth Trap Attack without any penalty, with double Base Damage, and a Strength of 16. The Trap effect on the target can be maintained through following turns by paying the technique’s Maintenance cost. This technique can only be used while blocking attacks using a Supernatural Shield of any kind.
Effects: Strength16 Trap, 2XDamage, Elemental Attack (Earth), Maintained (only Trap on Target), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth), Generic Weapon Bond (Supernatural Shield).
STR12 (Mant.2) / CON12 (Mant.2) / POW12 (Mant.3)
MK: 85

MOUNTAIN BODY
Level 2
By fusing himself with any supernatural shield possessed, the user of this technique becomes an unbreakable lumbering titan with the endurance of a mountain. A character using this technique defends as a creature with Damage Accumulation with 1200 additional Life Points and a natural AT of 4, which combined with an additional layer of Unmodified AT6, grants him a total AT of 8, which cannot become lower than 6. This technique can be maintained in following turns by paying its Maintenance cost and 250 Life Points from the additional pool are regenerated each time the Maintenance cost is paid. This technique can only be used while blocking attacks using a Supernatural Shield of any kind.
Effects: 1200 Life Points Damage Accumulation (Regeneration 250), AT6 (Unmodified), Maintained.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth), Generic Weapon Bond (Supernatural Shield).
STR20 (Mant.6) / CON20 (Mant.6) / POW20 (Mant.5)
MK: 90

TOA’S SMASH
Level 3
A technique that can only be performed by those with Toa’s own blood in their veins and only while defending with a supernatural shield, Toa’s Smash concentrates all earthbound energies from an absorbed impact into a single point of the opponent, inflicting it an unbearable amount of damage, either sending it flying beyond the atmosphere or smashing it completely to the ground. This technique allows making a single Earth Elemental Counterattack with an Attack bonus of +200, Base Damage 1000, dealing an Impact with Strength 20. This technique can only be used while blocking attacks using a Supernatural Shield of any kind and only by those with Toa’s Blood.
Effects: +200 Counterattack, Damage Substitution 250, 4XDamage, Impact20, Elemental Attack (Earth).
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth), Generic Weapon Bond (Supernatural Shield), Requirement (Toa’s Blood).
STR36 / CON36 / POW36
MK: 175

 

 

SEPHIRA’S KNIGHT:
A school created by a Paladin heir to Sephira’s Blood, Sephira’s Knight was developed especially to get the best out of the Magnum Magnus, with tremendous attacks capable of either destroying single opponents or cutting away masses, although the first techniques are mainly focused on defense.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 360.

DEFENSIVE AURA
Level 1
Developed for defending allies of the user, this technique allows defending those close to the user by barrages of attacks. This technique allows the user to make up to 5 penalty free defenses each turn and Block any attack directed within 5m of the user. This technique can be maintained through following turns.
Effects: +4Additional Defenses, 5m Area Block, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light).
DEX5 (Mant.2) / CON5 (Mant.2) / POW5 (Mant.2)
MK: 50

ARMOR OF LIGHT
Level 1
The second defensive technique of Sephira’s Knight, it creates an unbreakable armor of light, that binds opponents making it easier to stop incoming attacks. This technique grants an Unmodified AT of 4, as well as a bonus of +40 to a single Block roll per turn. This technique can be maintained through following turns.
Effects: AT4 (Unmodified), +40Block, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light).
DEX7 (Mant.2) / CON7 (Mant.2) / POW7 (Mant.2)
MK: 50

LIGHT BURST
Level 2
Devised after the paladin noticed that opponents tended to flee whenever they understood he was preparing his Magnum attack, this technique extends the destruction brought by the attack to a wide surrounding area. This technique allows making a single Light Elemental Attack affecting all chosen targets within 500m of the user. This technique can only be used while unleashing a Magnum Magnus attack.
Effects: 500m Area Attack (Target Selection), Elemental Attack (Light).
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Magnus).
DEX7 / CON7 / POW7
MK: 40

GHOST HUNTER
Level 2
Developed for fighting immaterial and invisible enemies and repelling mages’ spells, this variant of the Magnum Magnus is also terribly effective against armored opponents and allows the user to release the Magnum Attack under any circumstance. This technique allows its user to gain the See Supernatural Power and make a Light Elemental Energy based Attack even if he were previously put at defense by an opponent’s attack during the same turn. Also the character’s attack will be able to block enemy spells using the Spell Clashing rules. This technique can only be used while releasing a Magnum Magnus attack.
Effects: Recover Action, Elemental Attack Light, Supernatural Attack, See Supernatural, Physical Shock, -3Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Magnus).
DEX10 / CON10 / POW10
MK: 75

MAXIMUM
Level 3
To be considered the most powerful expression of the Magnum Magnus, Maximum is a technique that only those with Sephira’s Blood can learn, inflicting a tremendous backlash that stops opponents mystical powers from working and dealing enormous amounts of damage. This technique allows making an attack that if it hits the opponent obliges it to take two PhR check against 200. If the opponent fails the first check it will suffer a PhR reduction equal to the Failure Level. If the opponent fails the second check, he will suffer Damage equal to double its Failure Level. Furthermore, if the attack deals damage to the opponent, it must surpass a third PhR check against suffered Damage plus 120. In case of failure, any supernatural power maintained by the opponent is immediately dispersed. This technique can only be used while unleashing a Magnum Magnus Attack and only by those with Sephira’s Blood.
Effects: Supernatural State (PhR200, PhR reduction and Double Damage, Attack), Interruption (Damage+120, Ki and Magic and Psychic), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Mangus), Requirement (Sephira’s Blood).
DEX23 / CON23 / POW23
MK: 145

SEPHIRA’S KNIGHT:
A school created by a Paladin heir to Sephira’s Blood, Sephira’s Knight was developed especially to get the best out of the Magnum Magnus, with tremendous attacks capable of either destroying single opponents or cutting away masses, although the first techniques are mainly focused on defense.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 360.

DEFENSIVE AURA
Level 1
Developed for defending allies of the user, this technique allows defending those close to the user by barrages of attacks. This technique allows the user to make up to 5 penalty free defenses each turn and Block any attack directed within 5m of the user. This technique can be maintained through following turns.
Effects: +4Additional Defenses, 5m Area Block, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light).
DEX5 (Mant.2) / CON5 (Mant.2) / POW5 (Mant.2)
MK: 50

ARMOR OF LIGHT
Level 1
The second defensive technique of Sephira’s Knight, it creates an unbreakable armor of light, that binds opponents making it easier to stop incoming attacks. This technique grants an Unmodified AT of 4, as well as a bonus of +40 to a single Block roll per turn. This technique can be maintained through following turns.
Effects: AT4 (Unmodified), +40Block, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light).
DEX7 (Mant.2) / CON7 (Mant.2) / POW7 (Mant.2)
MK: 50

LIGHT BURST
Level 2
Devised after the paladin noticed that opponents tended to flee whenever they understood he was preparing his Magnum attack, this technique extends the destruction brought by the attack to a wide surrounding area. This technique allows making a single Light Elemental Attack affecting all chosen targets within 500m of the user. This technique can only be used while unleashing a Magnum Magnus attack.
Effects: 500m Area Attack (Target Selection), Elemental Attack (Light).
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Magnus).
DEX7 / CON7 / POW7
MK: 40

GHOST HUNTER
Level 2
Developed for fighting immaterial and invisible enemies and repelling mages’ spells, this variant of the Magnum Magnus is also terribly effective against armored opponents and allows the user to release the Magnum Attack under any circumstance. This technique allows its user to gain the See Supernatural Power and make a Light Elemental Energy based Attack even if he were previously put at defense by an opponent’s attack during the same turn. Also the character’s attack will be able to block enemy spells using the Spell Clashing rules. This technique can only be used while releasing a Magnum Magnus attack.
Effects: Recover Action, Elemental Attack Light, Supernatural Attack, See Supernatural, Physical Shock, -3Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Magnus).
DEX10 / CON10 / POW10
MK: 75

MAXIMUM
Level 3
To be considered the most powerful expression of the Magnum Magnus, Maximum is a technique that only those with Sephira’s Blood can learn, inflicting a tremendous backlash that stops opponents mystical powers from working and dealing enormous amounts of damage. This technique allows making an attack that if it hits the opponent obliges it to take two PhR check against 200. If the opponent fails the first check it will suffer a PhR reduction equal to the Failure Level. If the opponent fails the second check, he will suffer Damage equal to double its Failure Level. Furthermore, if the attack deals damage to the opponent, it must surpass a third PhR check against suffered Damage plus 120. In case of failure, any supernatural power maintained by the opponent is immediately dispersed. This technique can only be used while unleashing a Magnum Magnus Attack and only by those with Sephira’s Blood.
Effects: Supernatural State (PhR200, PhR reduction and Double Damage, Attack), Interruption (Damage+120, Ki and Magic and Psychic), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Mangus), Requirement (Sephira’s Blood).
DEX23 / CON23 / POW23
MK: 145
 

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#48 Xamusel

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 09:10 AM

Elric, you posted Sephira's Knight twice, in case you didn't notice.



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Posted 03 December 2011 - 08:33 PM

mmm...it must have copy/pasted in the original file...I guess...thanks for noticing, although I can't edit anymore here...whatever...



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Posted 04 December 2011 - 04:57 PM

Yeah... I don't know why either.  Maybe they'll decide to put the feature back in soon.

Either way, I'll come up with some more Ki things for later, so don't worry for now.



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Posted 04 December 2011 - 09:18 PM

Toa's Throne and Sephira's Knight had tons of errors in MK count and stuff...hence I reworked them a bit and I'm posting them anew (they substitute the previous post). Moreover a couple more Technique trees: Borea's Stars and The Prayer of The Sea (for lovers of Boreas' Blood and Ran's Blood), as well as The Four Missing Techniques of Tanathos for Kagutsuchi's heirs. Hope you enjoy them!

TOA’S THRONE:
Developed by an heir of Toa’s Blood in Baho, this school incarnates the very own concept of solidity. Developed by the fusion of the principles from many schools, including Di Quiu, Sattyagraha, and Toa Calc Rex Regis, it’s an incredibly effective combat style, which proper use is limited to those that own The Gift and can summon Stone Barriers, Magnetic Barriers as a defense and/or to those who own Toa’s Blood and are able to summon the power of the Earth Dragon Transformation.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 420.

 

STONEPUNCH
Level 1
The first technique of Toa’s Throne is a simple and effective offensive technique turning the user’s arm and weapon in an enormous fist made of stone that targets the opponent with great precision, fueled by the character’s own strength, with an increased damage output. This technique allows this character making an Earth Elemental Attack with a Predetermined Attack value of 240, and with a Damage Bonus of +50.
Effects: Predetermined Attack (240), +50 Damage, Elemental Attack (Earth), -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth).
STR9 / CON9 / POW9
MK: 30

STONEWALL
Level 1
Stonewall is a strong defensive technique devised to protect allies against massive attacks by summoning of enormous stone walls. This technique allows the user to make an Block roll with a bonus of +90 to his final ability stopping any attack directed within 10m of the user.
Effects: 10m Area Block, +90 Block, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth).
STR7 / CON7 / POW7
MK: 40

EARTHGRAB
Level 2
By manipulating his own supernatural shield, the user of this technique manages to raise the earth to wrap around the body of the opponent, crushing it. This technique allows making a single Elemental Earth Trap Attack without any penalty, with double Base Damage, and a Strength of 16. The Trap effect on the target can be maintained through following turns by paying the technique’s Maintenance cost. This technique can only be used while blocking attacks using a Supernatural Shield of any kind.
Effects: Strength16 Trap, 2XDamage, Elemental Attack (Earth), Maintained (only Trap on Target), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth), Generic Weapon Bond (Supernatural Shield).
STR12 (Mant.2) / CON12 (Mant.2) / POW12 (Mant.3)
MK: 80

MOUNTAIN BODY
Level 2
By fusing himself with any supernatural shield possessed, the user of this technique becomes an unbreakable lumbering titan with the endurance of a mountain. A character using this technique defends as a creature with Damage Accumulation with 1200 additional Life Points and a natural AT of 4, which combined with an additional layer of Unmodified AT6, grants him a total AT of 8, which cannot become lower than 6. This technique can be maintained in following turns by paying its Maintenance cost and 250 Life Points from the additional pool are regenerated each time the Maintenance cost is paid. This technique can only be used while blocking attacks using a Supernatural Shield of any kind.
Effects: 1200 Life Points Damage Accumulation (Regeneration 250), AT6 (Unmodified), Maintained.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth), Generic Weapon Bond (Supernatural Shield).
STR20 (Mant.6) / CON20 (Mant.6) / POW20 (Mant.5)
MK: 85

TOA’S SMASH
Level 3
A technique that can only be performed by those with Toa’s own blood in their veins and only while defending with a supernatural shield, Toa’s Smash concentrates all earthbound energies from an absorbed impact into a single point of the opponent, inflicting it an unbearable amount of damage, either sending it flying beyond the atmosphere or smashing it completely to the ground. This technique allows making a single Block with a bonus of +75 followed, in case a counterattack can be made, by an Attack with a bonus of +200, Base Damage 1000, dealing an Impact with Strength 20. This technique can only be used while blocking attacks using a Supernatural Shield of any kind and only by those with Toa’s Blood.
Effects: +75 Block, +200 Counterattack, Damage Substitution 250, 4XDamage, Impact20.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Earth), Generic Weapon Bond (Supernatural Shield), Requirement (Toa’s Blood).
STR36 / CON36 / POW36
MK: 185

 

SEPHIRA’S KNIGHT:
A school created by a Paladin heir to Sephira’s Blood, Sephira’s Knight was developed especially to get the best out of the Magnum Magnus, with tremendous attacks capable of either destroying single opponents or cutting away masses, although the first techniques are mainly focused on defense.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 400.

DEFENSIVE AURA
Level 1
Developed for defending allies of the user, this technique allows defending those close to the user by barrages of attacks. This technique allows the user to make up to 5 penalty free defenses each turn and Block any attack directed within 5m of the user. This technique can be maintained through following turns.
Effects: +4Additional Defenses, 5m Area Block, Maintained, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light).
DEX5 (Mant.2) / CON5 (Mant.2) / POW5 (Mant.2)
MK: 35

ARMOR OF LIGHT
Level 1
The second defensive technique of Sephira’s Knight, it creates an unbreakable armor of light, that binds opponents making it easier to stop incoming attacks. This technique grants an Unmodified AT of 3, as well as a bonus of +40 to a single Block roll per turn. This technique can be maintained through following turns.
Effects: AT3 (Unmodified), +40Block, Maintained, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light).
DEX7 (Mant.2) / CON7 (Mant.2) / POW7 (Mant.2)
MK: 50

LIGHT BURST
Level 2
Devised after the paladin noticed that opponents tended to flee whenever they understood he was preparing his Magnum attack, this technique extends the destruction brought by the attack to a wide surrounding area. This technique allows making a single Light Elemental Attack affecting all chosen targets within 500m of the user, even if he were previously put at defense by an opponent’s attack during the same turn. This technique can only be used while unleashing a Magnum Magnus attack.
Effects: Recover Action, 500m Area Attack (Target Selection), Elemental Attack (Light), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Magnus).
DEX9 / CON9 / POW9
MK: 80

GHOST HUNTER
Level 2
Developed for fighting immaterial and invisible enemies and repelling mages’ spells, this variant of the Magnum Magnus is also terribly effective against armored opponents and allows the user to release the Magnum Attack under any circumstance. This technique allows its user to gain the See Supernatural Power and make a Light Elemental Energy based Attack, even if he were previously put at defense by an opponent’s attack during the same turn. Also the character’s attack will be able to block enemy spells using the Spell Clashing rules. This technique can only be used while releasing a Magnum Magnus attack.
Effects: Recover Action, Elemental Attack Light, Supernatural Attack, See Supernatural, Physical Shock, -3Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Magnus).
DEX10 / CON10 / POW10
MK: 70

MAXIMUM
Level 3
To be considered the most powerful expression of the Magnum Magnus, Maximum is a technique that only those with Sephira’s Blood can learn, inflicting a tremendous backlash that stops opponents mystical powers from working and dealing enormous amounts of damage. This technique allows making an attack that if it hits the opponent obliges it to take two PhR check against 200, even if he were previously put at defense by an opponent’s attack during the same turn. If the opponent fails the first check it will suffer a PhR reduction equal to the Failure Level. If the opponent fails the second check, he will suffer Damage equal to double its Failure Level. Furthermore, if the attack deals damage to the opponent, it must surpass a third PhR check against suffered Damage plus 120. In case of failure, any supernatural power maintained by the opponent is immediately dispersed. This technique can only be used while unleashing a Magnum Magnus Attack and only by those with Sephira’s Blood.
Effects: Recover Action, Supernatural State (PhR200, PhR reduction and Double Damage, Attack), Interruption (Damage+120, Ki and Magic and Psychic), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Light), Generic Weapon Bond (Magnum Mangus), Requirement (Sephira’s Blood).
DEX27 / CON27 / POW27
MK: 165

 

BOREAS STARS:
Signature techniques of those with of Boreas Blood, these fighting tricks are very particular because most of them are designed specifically to be used with projectile weapons, propelling them with the power of the Air Aeon.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 380.

AIR KILLER
Level 1
Designed to take out as fast as possible the target, this techniques allows shooting two rapid attacks with absolute precision. This technique allows the user to make up to 2 penalty free Attacks in a single turn which reduce by -50 any penalty for Aimed Attacks.
Effects: +1Additional Attack, -50 Aimed Attacks, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Air).
DEX4 / AGI4 / POW4
MK: 35

BOREAS REACTION
Level 1
This technique greatly enhances the character’s reaction time, making his movements blazingly fast and completely impossible for opponents to take him by surprise. This technique makes its user completely immune to Surprise Attacks and grants him a bonus of +100 to Initiative.
Effects: +100Initiative, Complete Prevision.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Air).
DEX6 / AGI6 / POW6
MK: 30

PHANTOM SNIPER
Level 2
While shooting his weapon, the character creates false images of himself that make extremely difficult understanding his real position. This technique grants its user a bonus of +75 to all Dodge rolls he makes in a turn. This technique can be maintained through following turns. The character must be using a projectile weapon to be able to use this technique.
Effects: +75 Complete Dodge, Maintained, -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Air), Generic Weapon Bond (Projectile Weapon).
DEX11 (Mant.4) / AGI11 (Mant.4) / POW11 (Mant.4)
MK: 60

SHIELD BUSTER
Level 2
Developed to face other ki users as well as other supernatural foes, Shield Buster shoots a round charged with mystical energy that will strike at the opponent with great precision and dissipate any mystical power active on it. This technique allows its user to make a single Electric Air Elemental Attack with an Attack bonus roll of +125. If the attack deals damage to the opponent, it must surpass a third PhR check against suffered Damage plus 100. In case of failure, any supernatural power maintained by the opponent is immediately dispersed. The character must be using a projectile weapon to be able to use this technique.
Effects: +125Attack, Interruption (Damage+100, Ki and Magic and Psychic), Elemental Attack (Air), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Air), Generic Weapon Bond (Projectile Weapon).
DEX14 / AGI14 / POW14
MK: 85

WIND BARRAGE
Level 3
This terrifying technique unleashes a sequence of extremely precise attacks followed by a barrage of lesser precise shots. Such a feat is allowed by a complete control of the wind, that can be achieved only by those with Boreas’ own blood. This technique allows its user making 6 attacks with a bonus of +200 to their Attack value, followed by 10 additional penalty free attacks. The character must have Boreas’ Blood and be using a projectile weapon to be able to use this technique.
Effects: +200Attack, +5Additional Attacks, +10Additional Limited Attacks, -3Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Air), Generic Weapon Bond (Projectile Weapons), Requirement (Boreas’ Blood).
DEX33 / AGI33 / POW33
MK: 170

 

THE FOUR MISSING TECHNIQUES OF TANATHOS:
Of the ten techniques of Tanathos, the school used by the Duk’Zarist praetorian guard, only six have survived in Gaia, or so it’s believed. Actually a hermit domine which was once a member of the praetorian guard has kept jealously the secret of all of them, until recently, when he taught them to a Duk’Zarist adventurer who has managed to get to Lunaris, where he learned two more and get back to Gaia, the complete Tanathos is back in the world, although the brave Duk’Zarist adventurer (who has fortunately gotten away from Imperium’s eye) is at the moment the only master of it, beside the hermit. Unsurprisingly, Tanathos most advanced technique requires the blood of the Fire Aeon to be used, which the Duk’Zarist adventurer fortunately (or perhaps due to destiny’s will) has.
Techniques (Including Tanathos from Dominus Exxet): 10 Total MK: 730 (Including Tanathos from Dominus Exxet).

AEDIPUS, SONG OF THE DARK FLAME
Level 1
This base technique of Tanathos, preserved in Lunaris, calls upon the very two elements that are bound to Duk’Zarist soul, making fire and darkness around the blade a live entity. This technique allows the user to make a single Darkness and Fire Elemental Attack with a bonus of +40 to the Attack Roll. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 2 Fire Intensities at his disposal.
Effects: +40Attack, Elemental Attack (Fire), Elemental Attack (Darkness), -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Fire Simple Intensity).
STR5 / DEX5 / WIL5
MK: 25

BERENICES, SUDDEN FLAME
Level 2
This technique, which a hermit kept as a secret for a long time, allows the user to move a small flame around the opponent and then switch position with it, attacking from an unpredictable angle, all the while increasing his attack and damage potential. This technique allows its user to make a single attack with a bonus of +75 both to the Attack Roll and the Base Damage. The target of this attack will need to perform a Notice Check against a difficult of Inhuman (320) or suffer the Surprise penalty to his Defense roll. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 2 Fire Intensities at his disposal. This technique has the Predetermined Disadvantage.
Effects: +75Attack, +75Damage, Disguised Attack (320), -4Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Fire Simple Intensity), Predetermined.
STR9 / DEX9 / WIL9
MK: 75

DARK SALAMANDER
Level 3
The only maintained technique among Tanathos, still used in Lunaris, Dark Salamander charges the user’s body with the power from the sun, granting him incredible resilience and an unlimited flexibility, as well as keen senses that make impossible taking him by surprise. This allows its user to make any number of penalty free Defenses each turn, as well as granting him an Unmodified AT of 7 and immunity to all Surprise Attack penalties. This technique can be maintained through following turns. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 8 Fire Intensities at his disposal and spend 4 Fatigue Points in addition to accumulated Ki. This technique can only be used during daytime.
Effects: Complete Prevision, Unlimited Additional Defenses, AT7 (Unmodified), Maintained, -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Fire Major Intensity), -4Fatigues, Requirement (Daily).
STR22 (Mant.7) / DEX22 (Mant.7) / WIL22 (Mant.7)
MK: 115

DARK ŽAR PTICA
Level 3
This final technique was held by a Duk’Zarist hermit until little time ago, the reason being that only those with Kagutsuchi’s blood can learn it and only after they have mastered every single other move of Tanathos. While Dark Phoenix focuses on mass destruction and Dark Salamander on self defense, Dark Žar Ptica is designed for killing a single opponent with a flurry of attacks ending with a massively destructive attack. This technique allows its user making 8 penalty free attacks followed by a single attack with a bonus of +200 to the Attack value, completely ignoring target’s AT and a bonus to Base Damage equal to 90 plus double any quantity of Life Points Sacrificed by the character the moment he executes the technique. The character must have Kagutsuchi’s Blood, know all other 9 Tanathos Techniques, have at least 8 Fire Intensities at his disposal in order to be able to use Dark Žar Ptica.
Effects: +200Attack, +90Damage (Double Life Sacrifice), +8Additional Limited Attacks, Negates AT.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Fire Major Intensity), Requirement (Kagutsuchi’s Blood, All Other Tanathos Techniques).
STR33 / DEX33 / WIL33
MK: 185

 

THE PRAYER OF THE SEA:
Created by those with Ran’s Blood, this group of techniques is strictly bound to the sea, and although it includes few offensive maneuvers, it is markedly defensive, designed to engulf and protect the user and those dear to him. Strange enough highest level techniques require fighting with the Aquarius Magnus, simulating wave movements with the cape or other dresses of the user.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 410.

WAVE SHIELD
Level 1
A wave is summoned to protect its user, providing the optimal distraction for a counterattack. This technique allows the user to make a single Defense with a predetermined defense roll of 240. In case the defense is successful and the character can counterattack, he receives a bonus of +75 to his Attack roll. This technique can be combined with other combinable techniques.
Effects: Predetermined Defense (240), +75 Counterattack, Combinable, -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Water).
DEX10 / POW10 /WIL10
MK: 35

STREAMING ATTACK
Level 1
Thi attack projects a long stream of water that delivers a lethal blow to all opponents within its reach. This technique allows the user to make a single Distance Attack with a range of 100m affecting all individuals within its line of effect.
Effects: Distance Attack 100m (Line of Destruction), -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Water).
DEX5 / POW5 /WIL5
MK: 35

WAVE DEALER
Level 2
The second offensive technique of The Prayer is Wave Dealer and can be performed only while moving the user’s ki-powered vests like sea waves. The movement propagates through the air as invisible energy waves that cut through the enemies. This technique can only be used while fighting with Aquarius Magnus.
Effects: +3Additional Attacks, Distance Attack 100m (Line of Destruction), Disguised Attack (320), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Water), Generic Weapon Bond (Aquarius).
DEX15 / POW15 / WIL15
MK: 100

MIGHTY OCEAN AEGIS
Level 2
By focusing on his own vests, the Aquarius user turns them into a whirpool that surrounds the user and doubles itself, so that the opponents no longer know who the user really is. Such phantom image can attack at the user’s will imitating all his moves and causing illusory damage to the opponents, by striking their nervous system. Moreover the whirpool sucks away all attacks directed to the attacker. This technique allows its user to defend as if using a Supernatural Shield with 1000 Resistance Points and creates 6 mirror images of the character which cannot be detected even by Ki Detection, until a difficulty of 320 is achieved, and that attack using the rules for Ghostly Illusions against those who don’t pass a PsR check of 180. This technique can be maintained through following turns and the Supernatural Shield recovers 250 Resistance Points every time the Maintenance Cost is paid. This technique can be combined with other combinable techniques. This technique can only be used while fighting with Aquarius Magnus.
Effects: 1000 Resistance Points Energy Shield (Regeneration 250), 1 Mirror Image (Undetectable 320, PsR180 Ghostly Illusion), Combinable, Maintained.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Water), Generic Weapon Bond (Aquarius Magnus).
DEX19 (Mant. 6) / POW19 (Mant. 6) / WIL19 (Mant. 6)
MK: 100

BATEN KAITOS
Level 3
Only those with Ran’s Blood can summon the power of Baten Kaitos, a technique expressively developed for protecting as many people as possible with absolute certainty, reflecting any attack against the offender at the same time. The vest of the user seems to expand to cover all those within a large area around the user, granting them protection from any incoming attack. This technique allows its user making a defense roll with a predetermined roll of 440 that can be used to stop any attack within a 1km area. In case of successful defense, the attack, including any esoteric effect of it, is redirected against the attacker with a final attack value equal to the final attack value achieved by the attacker himself. This technique can be combined with other combinable techniques. This technique can only be used while fighting with Aquarius Magnus and only by those with Ran’s Blood.
Effects: 1km Area Block, Predetermined Defense (440), Reflect Attack (Esoteric Effects), Combinable, -1Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Water), Generic Weapon Bond (Aquarius Magnus), Requirement (Ran’s Blood).
DEX23 / POW23 / WIL23
MK: 140
 

Expect techniques for those with Nifleheim's Blood and Rudraksha's Blood to be coming soon!



#52 Sidisessinu

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:51 AM

Elric of Melniboné said:

I believe too that overlapping area of effects can increase actual damage over enemies...

Hmm.... so lets say a character uses a tech that can hit multiple targets at long distance, and has multi area attack of 80ft. He targets 2 enemies within the range of the distance of the Long range requirement and are only 20ft apart from each other. Would they only be subject to one of the Area attacks or would the have to defend from both?

 

The Boreas Stars school looks awsome, and a good supplement to the Gunhell school. Speaking of which, I noticed the Gunhell school was missing something, imo, so I created a couple technques for it:

Charge Shot

lvl:1    MK 35

By focusing their Ki into the rounds in the guns, the character increases the damage of the attack.

Str: 8   Pow: 8   Dex: 8

Effect: 2x original damage (multi)

Disadvantage: Maintained Tech (Gunslinger)

 

Explosive rounds

Lvl:2   MK 80

By focusing on pure destructive energy into their next shots, the character unleashes pure "hell" from their guns.

Str: 16  Pow: 16   Dex: 16

Effects: Damage Multiplier 3x (multi), Impact (str 12), Area Attack 15ft (multi)

Disadvantage: Maintained Tech (Gunslinger)

 

I also made 3 more techniques, and last ones,  for the Raiha no Kage school:

 

Daku Bakudan (Dark Bomb)

Lvl: 2      MK 45

By focusing his Ki to destructive levels, a character can create can create a bomb out of any weapon, thou the weapon is destroyed in the use of the technique.

Pow: 10    Dex: 10    Wil: 10

Effects: Area Attack 80ft (multi), Attack ability +50 (multi), Elemental Attack Electricity

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air), Weapon Loss

 

Arashi no Seishin (Soul of Storms)

Lvl: 2     MK 100

This technique suffuses the body with energy, increasing their combat potiental.

Pow: 18   Dex: 18  Wil: 18   Agi: 17

Effects: +4 additional attacks, +40 Dodge ability (multi), +40 attack ability (multi)

Disadvantages: Elemental binding (Darkness/Air)

 

Arashi no Abata (Avatar of Storms)

Lvl: 3   MK 190

This technique is an advanced form of Arashi no Seishin. By invoking this technique, the character becomes the living embodiment of a storm, by focusing on straight attacks.

Dex: 45   Pow: 45  Wil:  45

Effects: Attack ability +100 (Multi), +5 additional attacks, +5 limited attacks, Supernatural state PhR 140 (death), Reduced Ki (1)

Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air), Predetermined, Exhaustion (-4 fatigue)

 

One thing I notice Elric:

Elric of Melniboné said:

WIND BARRAGE
Level 3
This terrifying technique unleashes a sequence of extremely precise attacks followed by a barrage of lesser precise shots. Such a feat is allowed by a complete control of the wind, that can be achieved only by those with Boreas’ own blood. This technique allows its user making 6 attacks with a bonus of +200 to their Attack value, followed by 10 additional penalty free attacks. The character must have Boreas’ Blood and be using a projectile weapon to be able to use this technique.
Effects: +200Attack, +5Additional Attacks, +10Additional Limited Attacks, -3Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Binding (Air), Generic Weapon Bond (Projectile Weapons), Requirement (Boreas’ Blood).
DEX33 / AGI33 / POW33
MK: 170

The max attack ability increase that can be given to multiple attacks is +100, the +200 is for a single attack

 



#53 ElricOfMelnibone

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:52 AM

You are having some trouble understanding how certain "technique interactions" work.

If you buy ADDITIONAL ATTACKS (and not additional limited) and you buy +Attack (even single), the +Attack Bonus will apply TO THE ORIGINAL ATTACK AND THE ADDITIONAL ATTACKS.

On the other hand if you have a technique with +Attack and ADDITIONAL LIMITED ATTACKS, the +Attack Bonus will only apply to the original attack (the first or the last...usually).

Wind Barrage combines +200Attack with +5Additional Attacks and +10Additional Limited Attacks.

The +5Additional Attacks AND the normal attack the character is entitled GAIN FULLY the +200 Attack bonus, while the 10 Additional Limited Attacks don't benefit from any Attack Bonus.

BY THE WAY, if you bought +10 Additional LIMITED Attacks and MULTIPLE +100 Attack bonus...then the Attack bonus would apply also on the additional limited attacks, since it applies to all attacks made by the character during that turn (even additional attacks unrelated to the technique, due to dual wielding, additional attack maneuver...stuff...)

I hope my blabbering was comprehensible.

 

Returning to the question about overlapping areas...A technique giving you multiple long-distance-area-attacks (like Dai Kurai Arashi) adds the long distance and area effect to all attacks you make in the turn...you might be entitled more than one attack, for example because you're dual-wielding or simply because you chose the multiple attack maneuver applying the penalty for making more than one attack in a single attack action. Anyway, if you somehow pull out two area attacks and one or more targets are caught within BOTH area of effects, such targets will have to defend against BOTH attacks.

 

I'm terribly sorry, but right now I'm just far too lazy to comment on your additions to Gunhell and your own school. A rapid glance shows me you seem to have implemented some interesting stuff, but REALLY I'm far too tired right now to look closely at each of them, calculate Ki/MK cost and see if they are worth and/or correct. I'm awfully sorry for it...maybe tomorrow...

Meanwhile, I've created the last two promised schools for those with Rudraksha's Blood and those with Niflheim's Blood. Here they are:

TESLA’S LEGACY:
This group of technique was created by a powerful warrior mentalist and scientist named Tesla (the first name’s been long forgotten), heir to Rudraksha’s Blood. The whole technique is based on lightning and thunder and as such energies are hard to control, it tends to overstrain the user.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 450.

 

TESLA IMPACT
Level 1
The first technique, named Tesla Impact, consists in unleashing a strong electrical charge on a close by target, sending him flying most of the times. This technique allows making a single Electric Elemental Attack with a bonus of +25 to the Attack roll and +40 to the Base Damage, dealing an Impact with an equivalent strength of 12. Using this technique requires spending 2 Fatigue points in addition to accumulated Ki.
Effects: +25 Attack, +40 Damage, Impact12, Elemental Attack (Air), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: -2Fatigue.
STR8 / DEX8 / CON8
MK: 50

TESLA LIGHTNING
Level 1
This attack projects a long and wide electrical lightning that fries everything in its path. This technique allows its user to make a single Electric Elemental Distance attack affecting all those within a line 1m wide and 20m long, with a Base Damage of 120. Using this technique requires spending 2 Fatigue points in addition to accumulated Ki.
Effects: Distance Attack 20m (2XPresence+PowBonus Damage, Line of Destruction), Area Attack 1m, Elemental Attack (Air), Damage Substitution 120.
Disadvantages: -2Fatigue.
STR12 / DEX12 / CON12
MK: 50

TESLA BACKLASH
Level 2
By accumulating energy from received blows, the body of the user of Tesla Backlash is surrounded by cackling energy that reflects the energy of attacks directed against the user, opening the opponents guard for a strong counterattack charged with electrical energy. This technique allows its user to make a defense with a predetermined defense value of 320, that in case of successful defense reflects the attack against the offender with an attack value equal to that achieved by the attacker itself and, if a counterattack can be made, grants a bonus of +75 to the counterattack’s Attack roll, +40 to its Base Damage and makes it an Electrical Elemental Attack. Using this technique requires spending 2 Fatigue points in addition to accumulated Ki and can only be used in a turn successive to one during which the character has suffered at least 10 points of Damage.
Effects: Predetermined Defense (320), Reflect Attack, +75 Counterattack, +40 Damage, Elemental Attack (Air).
Disadvantages: -2Fatigue, Limit Circumstance (Suffer Damage).
STR20 / DEX20 / CON20
MK: 80

TESLA COIL
Level 2
As the name implies, this techniques creates an electric coil arount the target that literally fries it to death. This technique allows making a penalty free Electric Elemental Trap Attack with a bonus of +50 to Attack, Base Damage 180 and a Strength of 14. The trap effect on the target can be maintained through the following turns by paying the technique’s maintenance cost. Using this technique requires spending 2 Fatigue points in addition to accumulated Ki. This technique has the Predetermined disadvantage.
Effects: +50 Attack, Damage Substitution 180, Trap14, Elemental Attack (Air), Maintained (Trap Effect on Target), -1Ki.
Disadvantages: -2Fatigue, Predetermined.
STR14 (Mant.2) / DEX14 (Mant.2) / CON14 (Mant.2)
MK: 75

TESLA STORM
Level 3
An absolute control over electricity, possible only to the heirs of Rudraksha is necessary to summon the Tesla Storm, a monstrous attack of terrifying power striking enemies in a wide region with an pinpoint precision and lethal effects. The vest of the user seems to expand to cover all those within a large area around the user, granting them protection from any incoming attack. This technique allows its user making a single Electric Elemental Attack affecting all chosen targets within a 5km area, ignoring up to a -75 penalty from aimed attacks, with Base Damage equal to double the character’s Presence plus his Power Bonus, quantity which must be doubled, and in case it scores a Critical, the Critical Level is increased by +75. All targets hit by this attack must pass a PhR check against a difficulty of 200 or suffer a reduction to their PhR equal to their failure level. Using this technique requires spending 2 Fatigue points in addition to accumulated Ki. Only characters with Rudraksha’s Blood can use this technique, and after using it, they suffer a -150 All Action Penalty, that recovers at a rate of -5 per turn.
Effects: +100Attack, -75Aimed Attacks, 2XDamage, 5km Area Attack (2XPresence+PowBonus Damage, Target Selection), Supernatural State (PhR200, PhR Reduction, Attack), Elemental Attack (Air), +75 Critical.
Disadvantages: -6Fatigue, -150 All Action Penalty, Requirement (Rudraksha’s Blood).
STR40 / DEX40 / CON40
MK: 195

 

ISA’S GLACIER:
Created by a renegade Frostkolier with Niflheim’s Blood, Isa’s Glacier renegades the water-bound elemental nature of ice, focalizing instead on its direct effects. The technique was developed through the fusion of Frostkolier with other ice-based technique trees and its final technique can only be performed by those who have Niflheim’s Blood, like its creator, who hasn’t found a rightful apprentice yet.
Techniques: 5 Total MK: 450.

ISA’S COLD RAIN
Level 1
Isa’s Cold Rain crates a small hail storm around the user that freezes to death those around him, ignoring their armors. This technique allows making a single Cold Elemental Attack affecting all individuals within 25m, that negates up to 3 points of AT of the defenders, with Base Damage equal to twice the character’s Presence plus his Power Bonus. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 2 Cold Intensities at his disposal.
Effects: 25m Area Attack, -3AT, Elemental Attack (Water), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Cold Simple Intensity).
DEX6 / CON6 / WIL6
MK: 50

ISA’S FISTS
Level 1
By covering the hands and weapons of the user with an ice layer, the user of Isa’s Fists becomes able to stop attacks, including mystical ones, with great efficiency and deal stronger blows. This technique grants a bonus of +25 to all Block rolls and to the Base Damage of all attacks made by the character, as well as making all his attacks Cold Elemental Attacks capable of clashing spells using the Clashing Spells rules. This technique can be maintained through following turns. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 2 Cold Intensities at his disposal.
Effects: +25 Complete Block, +25 Real Damage, Elemental Attack (Water), Physical Shock, Maintained.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Cold Simple Intensity).
DEX12 (Mant.3) / CON12 (Mant.2) / WIL12 (Mant.3)
MK: 45

ISA’S REFLECTING WALL
Level 2
It’s after being dealt damage from the opponent that the user of Isa’s Glacier can summon his best defense, in the form of a particularly strong Ice Armor (shaped much like that summoned by Kolinger), that reflects against the opponents all attacks its wearer is able to stop. This technique grants its user an unmodified AT value of 6. Also it allows its user, in case of successful defense, to reflect the attack against the offender with an attack value equal to that achieved by the attacker itself. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 2 Cold Intensities at his disposal and must have suffered at least 10 points of Damage in the previous turn.
Effects: AT6 (Unmodified), Reflect Attack, Maintained.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Cold Simple Intensity), Limit Circumstance (Suffer Damage).
DEX16 (Mant.4) / CON16 (Mant.5) / WIL16 (Mant.4)
MK: 75

ISA’S ICETRAP
Level 2
Isa’s Ice Trap generates an icy slippery area around its user that inflicts rather low freezing burns on those who step on it, but most important makes them slip on it very easily, throwing them off balance and breaking their fighting postures. This technique allows making an additional penalty free Cold Elemental Attack per turn, affecting all individuals within 10m, with a Base Damage equal to double the character’s Presence plus his Power Bonus, quantity which must be halved. The targets of this attack will need to perform a Notice Check against a difficult of Almost Impossible (240) or suffer the Surprise penalty to his Defense roll and if they are hit, they have to pass a PhR check against a difficulty of 140 or suffer an All Action Penalty equal to their failure level which is recovered at a rate of -5 per turn. This technique can be maintained through following turns. In order to perform this technique, the character must have at least 2 Cold Intensities.
Effects: +1 Additional Limited Attack, Area Attack 10m, Disguised Attack (240), Supernatural State (PhR140, Minor All Action Penalty, Attack), Elemental Attack (Water), Maintained, -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Elemental Requirement (Cold Simple Intesity), Half Damage.
DEX17 (Mant.4) / CON17 (Mant.4) / WIL17 (Mant.4)
MK: 85

GINUNNGAGAXE
Level 3
Only those who can control the essence of cold through Niflheim’s Blood can hope to learn this extremely complex but lethal fighting technique and even then only while surrounded by an intense cold can they unleash it, dealing a sequence of ice charged blows on the target that freeze it, lowering its resistance to injuries and completely inhibiting its movement capacity. This technique allows its user making 5 consecutive Cold Elemental Attacks that if they hit the opponent oblige it to take three PhR200 checks. An opponent failing the first PhR check suffers a penalty to his PhR equal to the failure level. An opponent failing the second PhR check suffers an All Action Penalty equal to the failure level that recovers at a rate of -5 per turn. An opponent failing the third PhR check suffers from Total Paralysis for a number of turns equal to his failure level. An opponent cannot counterattack against the user of this technique until the complete sequence of attacks is completed. Only characters with Niflheim’s Blood can use this technique, and only if they have at least 8 Cold Intensities at their disposal. This technique has the Complex Disadvantage.
Effects: +4 Additional Attacks (Continuous), Supernatural State (PhR200, PhR Reduction and All Action Peanlty and Total Paralysis, Attack), Elemental Attack (Water), -2Ki.
Disadvantages: Complex, Elemental Requirement (Major Cold Intensity), Requirement (Rudraksha’s Blood).
DEX32 / CON32 / WIL32
MK: 195
 

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#54 Sidisessinu

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:08 PM

My bad, guess I misread the stuff in the book on that part, but thanks for pointing that out. These other schools look pretty sweet too.



#55 ElricOfMelnibone

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:08 PM

Ok, today I have a bit more time and will comment on the last few techniques you designed.

First Gunhell:

All Gunhell techniques are meant to affect single shots (as if using a "special round"), and since that's their main flavor, I would abide to it (hence NO multiple effects). Moreover, Gunhell is a technique tree based on DEX/AGI/POW (with a splash of Willpower and Constitution only for the final technique).

Charge Shot's MK cost is correct, as is the Ki cost, but then again, if I were using Gunhell I wouldn't be happy to have to go and raise also my STR accumulation and Ki pool. And again I wouldn't let a Gunhell user have "Multiple Effects" techniques. Moreover, Gunhell already has a Damage Augmentation technique: Sniper Shot. Currently a player buddy of mine is playing a technician with Gunhell (well...a variant version making use of a couple of Artifact Leo Short Sword-Pistols), but I don't think he'd be interested in such technique. Barrel Shot for less Ki actually deals more damage (because you shot 7 times...giving the opponent severe defense penalties) and when he's a bit out of Ki he can use Bouce Shot (yes, we're still low on levels, ok?), which again, most times inflicts a -90 penaty to the opponent's defense, meaning tons more damage. Then again: The technique is perfectly correct, its usefulness (especially considering the STR ki requirement) not so much.

 

Explosive Rounds: again...i'd go for Explosive ROUND (so no multi effects)...Anyway: its MK cost is 95, and not 80. As for Ki cost it's correct, but then again, having to raise STR accumulation and ki for a Gunhell user is awful (especially if you consider that being a ranged fighter, he won't probably have a high starting STR value!). As far as "crowd control" is concerned, Barrel Shot can make quick work of several small fries in a turn and once you get Storm Waltz why should you bother accumulating 16Ki points out of every stat when with 14 you slay (or severely damage) every single enemy within 100m?! Again, not so useful, on my opinion.

ANYWAY, I admit that the explosion with impact effect might be nice, but I'd entirely drop the damage augmentation stuff (again, for severe damage dealing you have other techniques in the tree already) and go for a cheaper thing like this:

Explosive Shot

Level 2

Effects: Area Attack 5m, Impact 16, -2Ki.

Disadvantage: Maintained Technique (Gunslinger).

DEX5 / AGI5 / POW5

MK: 50

Like this the Impact Effect, which is what makes this technique really "unique", is really effective and can make a difference and the technique is very cheap so that an average Gunhell user will be able to pull-out it in a turn once he's level 3 or 4.

 

Now le'ts get to Raitonigu no Kage:

A fist thought: making very big and MK-consuming schools is nice and I did it a couple of times too, of course, still you should remember that even a Teechnician or Tao might find useful keeping some MK for Ki/Nemesis Abilities and/or Ars Magna! When you design a technique requiring tons of MK. There are really beautiful and proficient school techniques for lower MK costs, like Frostkolier or Basis. Raitonigu no Kage was already 430MK worth IN YOUR PREVIOUS post...adding techniques would make learning it challenging for a TECHNICIAN. Since it's been designed for Ninjas (who will definitely have less MK, since they are usually a Shadow class...even using my Specialist Class they only get 30MK per level, and no discount on Martial Arts, meaning they won't usually have more than 1 "just for flavor"), I believe 430MK is already quite a lot...still if you want to "weight it more" I will comment on your new three techniques...

 

Daku Bakudan: MK cost is correct and the concept would be nice, but...there are three main problems with this technique:

1 - It gives crowd control (area attack) to a school that already has TONS of Crowd Control! Kage no Ame's Multiple attacks and Dai Kurai Arashi and Kage no Arashi's Area Attacks already give you a vast asset of weapons against multiple targets. What's the use of one more such technique?

2 - The explosion of a weapon should at best provoke a SINGLE detonation, so the "multiple" effects on Area Attack and Attack bonus are completely out of place here.

3 - The cost of others technique from the school is STR / POW / WIL. Again...buyng ALSO DEX accumulation would be troublesome for a technician, even more so for a tao and even more so for a Shadow...Need I say more?

Although I like the concept of this technique, adding another crowd control technique, requiring weapon sacrifice for a cost of 45 more MK to the already "MK-Heavy" Raitonigu no Kage is somehing I'd definitely avoid.

 

Arashi No Seishin: Again, you already have a technique giving you free additional attacks...do you need more...anyway, due to the explanation in the previous post, you don't need to buy "multiple Attack bonus" to apply it to the 5 attacks granted by this technique...since the Dodge bonus is unrelated to the additional attacks, though, you have to take it multiple to apply it to all dodge rolls in the same turn. The real problem with this technique is anyway, the fact that you can only pay Attack Bonus with STR Ki, hence the technique is bound to be very heavy on POW and WIL and very light on STR, causing a strong Ki unbalance...and then again, it's 80 more MK...believe me, any character would work-out better without it.

 

Arashi No Abata: Usual stuff...Dex needs to be substituted by STR and I'd go for +100 Attack (no multiple). It won't apply to the Additional Limited Attacks, but it should be ok anyway and the MK and Ki cost drop a bit...a technique requiring 45 Ki points to be cas, is a technique that most likely isn't going to be used... even with Accumulation 11 on all three stats, you require 5 turns to pull it out! My Tesla Storm Tehnique has a cost of 40, meaning with 10 accumulation points its pulled-out in 4 turns...and than, THAT is a BATTLE ENDER, a 5km area attack is a technique which is supposed to be used on a battlefield where AN ARMY is giving you time to accumulate ki...Arashi No Abata is a "power-up" technique meant to erase a small group of opponents or a single overpowerful opponet (for poweful crowd control, you already have Kage no Arashi, after all!) and the cost should not surpass 40 on STR / POW / WIL. Besides a PhR140 for a Level3 technique is VERY low...by the time you master that technique, the opponents don't break a sweat against such PhR difficulty. I'd suggest modifiying it a bit...

Arashi No Abata (Avatar of Storms)

Level 3

Effects: +100 Attack, +5 Additional Limited Attacks, Supernatural State (PhR200, Death, Attack), -2Ki.

Disadvantage: Predetermined, Elemental Binding (Darkness/Air), Exhaustion (-4Fatigue)

STR31 / POW31 / WIL31

MK 150

The attack with 100 bonus and Supernatural State effect should be the last. Like this the opponent will be severly weakened in his Defense roll and will almost surely be forced to take the PhR check of 200. For a high level character it's far easier to fail a PhR200 check than 5 PhR140 checks...and you're not going to use Arashi no Abata on small fries anyway! And with a cost of 31ki per stat, you're going to use it in 3 turns if your Accumulation is 11.

I hope my suggestions where somewhat useful.



#56 Sidisessinu

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 12:17 AM

@_@ ok well when you put it that way I can see that some were a bit overkill.... guess I just got caught in a creation fever and was trying to go for some techniques that were ninja - esque in nature, though I had though to have Daku Bakudan used with Kage no Ame to get the full effect of the weapon creation.....

But again thank you for your help Elric, I've learned quite a bit... and see I got a lot more to learn, when it comes to creating techniques.......

I'll eventually make some more, My player with the ninja was also wanting some Ice based Techniques... might "barrow" a couple from Fury of the Ice Queen school for this..... was thinking of doing a bit of Sub-Zero meets Naruto. I was also thinking of creating a school based on the "Dark Slayer Style" Virgil uses in DMC3 and that Dante uses in DMC4...........

Also had an idea bouncing in my head of a school of limited use Techniques that utilize tattoos as a media and will dissapaer from the body once used......

 

But those are for later once I figure out some of the stuff for it........ like how to best imitate the summoned sword attack.... and how to create Devil Trigger mode with the rules for the game.

 

But again thank you very much for all the help you have provided Elrix, you the best!



#57 Xamusel

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:49 AM

Dude, you'll need my permission to use the Fury of the Ice Queen school like that, seeing that it was my original idea.  If you need proof, you could look back a couple pages, but... yeah, I'll need to speak with you about that, as it's for a story thing that I'm writing.



#58 Sidisessinu

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:37 AM

Hehe....sorry bout that..... it slipped my mind. So is it possible I could use a couple of the Techniques in my campaign? BTW if you want to use any in the school I created feel free.



#59 ElricOfMelnibone

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:15 AM

Woah, guys! Stay cool (no pun intended)!

It's a game...remember.

For Ice Based techniques there are 4 nice schools around:

Frostkolier (Dominus Exxet...has a few errors around...but I posted somewhere corrections to that).

Fury of The Ice Queen which I made for Xamusel.

Isa's Glacier which I made for myself.

Lin Kuei, created by Brewmaster Vitty and included in a compendium he created. I've reworked a bit Ki costs for that school, and I don't know if he decided to undertake my suggestions or not...by the way, since he published it, I don't think he has problems having others use it.

 

Stay cool and most importantly have fun!



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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:38 AM

Elric, i made an ice technique i thought might fit well for Isa's Glacier

ISA'S SHARDS - MK 30

Level 1

Using this technique creates a thick layer of ice on the current weapon. After the attack has been blocked, the ice shatters and flows past the intended target. As soon as the ice shards are behind his target, they thrust back into him.

Effects: Camouflaged Attack(240), Attack +40, Damage +25, Armor Destruction -4, Elemental Attack(Water)

Disadvantages: Only vs Block

Cost: Dex 12, Con 12, Wil 12






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