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#41 Rhydderch

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 10:11 AM

Have to head to work soon, but was curious about the legal status of the online version of Tannhauser. Others have posted that FFG blocked the Vassal version of the game. 

Nhoj said:

One question - Does the contributor for the #16 character have any figure in mind?  Or conversions from other figures?

Not sure what the contributor had in mind, but the photo on the card reminds me of the American Robot Troopers from AEWWII. No top hat though =P



#42 Miah999

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 10:48 AM

Regarding legality,

I'm not sure what the person who was working on the newer Vassal version of Tanhauser did to bring FFG's ire on them, but my theory has always been that they went beyond what we fans would normally do. But like I said I don't know what that was. Maybe it was the hi-res map images, that no one else has ever had access to. I don't know.

If FFG tells me to pull it, I will, and I'll also make very clear right now that, I did not assist in any way with it's development.

But FFG has only ever been kind to me and I can't see them having too much issue, as long as we're not trying to make money of this sort of stuff.

But then again they may see it as a way to play without paying, but as long as the online tool doen't include any of the rules or scripts to automate play it should still be necessary to at least buy the Rule Book to use it.

To be honest if I was developing this I would not have included the character cards, that way the actual game cards would still be required, and then the software would only be used to track the board, combat, etc.

Well that's all the lawyer in me, It's been up for a day now and I haven't heard anything from FFG, and I know they read the blog a little, so I'm not worried yet. Alot of the law in these type cases is centered on intention, and no one is intending to steal from FFG profits. It's just a way to help more people play their game.

Anyway.



#43 Horsa

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 11:45 AM

I suppose the issue can be as simple as an image of a map. I presume if you publish that image and allow it to be available in a public place, it may be consdiered public domain eventually. Most companies do not see a conflict but some do.  GMT for example, openly encourages this type of support as they believe that it helps sell their games.



#44 Rhydderch

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:26 PM

Well, FFG has allowed Vassal modules of some of their other games, but usually with certain information left out so that you still need a copy of the game. My guess then is that FFG felt the original Vassal module included too much. I think its also possible that FFG did not want a module based on the original game out there since it could confuse people. Anyway, I expect FFG will be okay with this then, as long as some of the information is left out. I'd still like to see a Vassal version though since more board gamers have that program.



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Posted 25 October 2011 - 12:37 AM

Hello

I am the one behind the "tannhauser online" part. I agree with Miah. There is no automatism of the rules or rules content anywhere (and never was intended) so you need the basic rules and the rules for each character expansion, you have just the images and tokens there.

I intended to add the original maps to the build but reading your comment it might be better not to have them there and use just the fan created maps to avoid any legal conflict.

This way there is no chance to play any original scenario and to play the original game you would still need the box but it would somehow defeat the purpose of the game, being able to play with friends abroad, and have all the perks associated with this, imagine a campaign or set of scenarios that can be run online. A tannhauser league... whatever.

This also prompts a second thought, I could also add fan made teams like the Hellboy group or Moellers Herecitc etc it would make playtest of custom made characters and maps so much easier.

Obviously this is entirely fandom material without any money interest behind, I do own the game (if not all expansions) and I am not related to the fantasy grounds software people (I am just a user).

I think online and board are so much differnet experiences that they dont really compete, the competence would be with any video game company that had a game in mind. 

I have not contacted FFG for permission, but I know that in simmilar cases other companies refrained to act as long as there is no game logic or automatism included in the software.

I hope you give it a try and give me feedback, that was the whole point of making it public :-)



#46 Miah999

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:14 AM

@Moebius

I've down laoded it and played around with it and I really like this system, (I don't really care for Vassal), the demo version is really all you need to play a custom game of Tannhauser.

Good work.

PS I hope to see some of my custom characters in the next version.

PPS And I think it's a good idea to leave out the original maps.

PPPS And my blog does have a couple more maps you could add.



#47 Miah999

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:48 AM

New Adventurers conversion trooper up, and a Fan Submitted Union Stratagy guide.



#48 Miah999

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 03:10 AM

The last Adventurers conversion for "The Mercenaries" is up.



#49 Moebius

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 10:00 AM

Also my shiny new campaign rules are up!

The answer to the longing to have a faction progressing with time, Heroes evolving, equipment tokens picked up during battle... All that and much more! The rules will let you set up any campaign for 2-4 players (more if you use fan created factions).

Go check it here!

After all the topic of this thread was shameless slef promotion wasn't it?



#50 Rhydderch

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 11:04 PM

 Just wanted to say a big thanks to Miah and all those who contributed to his blog for Tannhauser month! It'll be fun to see what he comes up with next year! We expect triple the posts, Miah. That's right, TRIPLE! 



#51 Miah999

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:20 AM

The November bonus token is up, it's a bit of an odd one and is going to require that you pay attention during its bearer's activation: miah000.blogspot.com/2011/11/november-bonus-token-timekeeper.html

 

Oh and if I don't post anything else till next October I imagine I can have 189 posts ready by then. : )



#52 Miah999

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:52 AM

New bonus token up: http://miah000.blogs...ny-for-guy.html

Enjoy Guy Fawkes Night.



#53 Miah999

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:22 AM

My Video Review Series now has it's own page on the blog: http://miah000.blogs...iew-series.html

Take a look.



#54 Miah999

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:06 PM

The new Op. Hinansho rules are up.

http://www.fantasyfl...ho_Rulebook.pdf

and you can see on the blog here: http://miah000.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-can-see-pdf-of-upcoming-operation.html

 



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Posted 24 November 2011 - 01:56 AM

Hey thanks to Warheart you can now use the Magic Set Editor to make quick and easy Equipment Cards.

Link:  miah000.blogspot.com/2011/11/use-magic-set-editor-to-create.html



#56 Miah999

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:56 AM

I've posted blank Character Sheets for the four basic faction styles. miah000.blogspot.com/2011/11/blank-hero-character-sheets.html



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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:00 PM

Natalya is out in some stores now!

http://miah000.blogs...lya-is-out.html

 



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Posted 04 December 2011 - 04:37 AM

New video review of Natalya is up.

http://miah000.blogs...ew-natalya.html

 



#59 Rhydderch

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:29 PM

Thanks Miah. I have to agree that I'm not as impressed with the pack. The art is decent but the figure does not do it justice, though it did look better in your video than in the pics I've seen. The extra tokens just seem odd. So, Zor'ka, the embodiment of a supreme god in the heat of battle... stops to walk towards some gold in the corner? That just seems silly. They could have at least included a Mental test to resist. Also, I noticed that you said the tokens affect your enemies. Is that specified in the book? When I look on the cards, Gold Rush and Fools Gold just say any character, which would mean they affect everyone, including the character who placed the token. 

The new information about the Voivodes is interesting: "...she emptied the Voivode’s ectoplasmic core into the cannon, giving both the little machine and the cannon a new life and purpose" and "Originally intended as a suit to install a Voivode into, it was cast aside in favor of the less complicated smaller bodies for the robotic servants."

So it almost seems like the ectoplasm is the actual Voivode, or at least the AI/sentient part of it, while the Faberge Egg simply serves to house them, and that ectoplasm can be transferred from one machine to another... hrm... I want one for my car so it can drive me around! 

 



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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:02 AM

For those of you interested in picking up the Adventurers pre-painted minis I just posted a bunch of pics, with some of their Tann counterparts.

http://miah000.blogs...rrive.html#more

 






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