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#21 Foreshadow



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Posted 06 October 2011 - 08:36 PM

Why is reprinting the CE of this game upsetting. I saw a video where someone mentioned 400 was upsetting for a price for a board game and yet I see this CE version and people trying to make like 4 or 5 or heck more in profit (as they see it as an investment) and thus they are "upset" they can leech off others and make mad money off of it.

I don't suppose I like the making of collector items solely for an aftermarket effect. If that is the case then FFG should have sold it for even more. OR, here's the smart thing: make 2k of these guys, then make another 1k and don't sell them and say 10 years from now when they are 'ultra rare' slowly sell them off. You originally sold for 400, then make them rare, then since our capitalist system works on rarity which in cases like this is done purposely the original maker can cash in since suddenly you'll see a copy for sale and they can either undercut that guy trying to get 5k for a board or they can easily charge three times the original.

In the end, I like the game and I had a chance to buy the CE but did not for the fact I never played the game and didn't want to invest in a game that might not be, like say Talisman is, or Twilight Imperium, a game I know a CE version is worth having. Yes, they should just make a CE version of Twilight Imperium 3 with all those little ships and such.

In the end, we have to give work to chinese workers who paint these little minis. So apparently it is possible to make a hand painted set for 400 (they must use the same workers who do dwarven forge stuff and heroclix?)

Jokes aside I think who cares if some owners of CE editions are mad or not. They already own them what are they going to do boycott FFG games? sell their game? sit in like the protesters on Wall Street? Basically them being upset would be simply a meaningless gesture. Since if they bought the game they either a) liked it or b) bought it solely to resell at inflated prices so either way they would be upset and if re-released still buy more copies to horde for some future resell.

Yet, apparently, the larger cards and map and such are good ideas and prompt a redo of the game, which explains why there are not many copies. Why not do a copy of the game like that. Off a hardcover set of the rules bound sold separately if you want it, and a set of the minis. FFG has all those arkham asylum minis so they have the hook up on Chinese people sitting around painting minis somewhere, so why not some LOTR figs too.

I don't even mind if FFG profits more on the initial sale. Don't charge 400 if a year or so later we'll see it for 1,700 on ebay. Just sell the darn thing for like 800. If someone is crazy enough to spend 1,700 they are crazy enough to spend 800. I would not pay that.

Personally, I would pay 500. So add 100 of pure profit to your margin FFG and just redo the CE version of the game BUT drop the big wooden box and instead put them in an Army Case type of case, the type you see with the foam. They are normally called Battle Boxes and are for miniature wargames. They sell for about 30-50 (maybe 60) each and if needed sell 2 of them to fit all those minis (I don't know how many it would take but it strikes me as one larger one would do it. Plus those two optional guys, the white gandalf and the strider king model just add them all.

Plus you realize if you have this great resource of Chinese workers (or whatever third world place you use, I say let Canadians do it) painting these things, then like heroclix you realize that since it is LOTR related people might buy those minis just because and do so for some reason they wish.

For example, I don't play heroclix but I use those minis for roleplaying games, and things like the police minis when I run call of cthulhu type games. Why? because they are .30 cents each and look great.

If you do reprint this game I would seriously buy it now that I learned more about it. Perhaps you can do an Age of Conan CE game too, and while your going hogwild, a good CE version of Twilight Imperium. For the "collectors" charge 1000 dollars. Then you can pock 500 extra. Don't let them profit off of your hard work. If you do, secretly make like 1000 extra copies for some future day to sell on ebay.

#22 Feqz



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Posted 09 October 2011 - 02:32 AM

Thanks for this great information!

Has anyone of you news on the planed changes/updates?

#23 DarthJalapeno



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Posted 10 October 2011 - 06:31 PM

Feqz said:

Thanks for this great information!

Has anyone of you news on the planed changes/updates?


Here: http://www.warofther...u/interview.htm

And here: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/701778/changes-to-wotr-in-the-revised-edition


#24 Tsugo



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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:39 AM

Foreshadow said:

Why is reprinting the CE of this game upsetting.


Perhaps you're confused on the whole Collector's Edition concept. Whether you like it or not, that the way it is.  You snooze, you lose.

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