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#41 horizon

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:22 PM

3-4km you say?

 

Then we are talking about a light cruiser in size. That would be a Dauntless model I think. Or this, Zeus Class CL:

http://www.paulsonga...age/5879537.htm

painted versions (with differenent weapon modules, above links shows the modules you get):



(painted by Vaaish).


So, I think it'l be easier to work from such a CL downwards then upwards from an escort.



#42 Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:29 PM

These are an interesting shape, and I went to the site but they are backordered, probably forever.

I have ideas, and I can sculpt, so its only a matter of time before I create it. I am expecting more ships to arrive over the next two weeks and will know which ones I am altering.



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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:34 PM

 

The Zeus will be back october fifth :)

 

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the AdMech light cruiser could also be used as the base model.

 

 

http://www.sg.tactic...hp?topic=1746.0 (see pics in opening post)



#44 Lightbringer

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:02 PM

That Zeus class is a thing of beauty. A potentially Intellectual-Property infringing thing of beauty, (as I assume it's being built and sold for profit without GW permission) but still a thing of beauty. 

The Orion Fast Clipper from Into the Storm is a transport, not a modified Sword Class. But for modelling purposes it's pretty close to a Sword class in looks.

As for the old Spacefleet ships, I still like these. I like the old plastic Imperial ships, which were called Gothic Class cruisers. They have a totally different (but, I think, still very "Imperial Gothic") look to them. Where you'd fit them on the "Old, pre-Imperial ships (a la Emperor Class)-Heresy-era pre-prow shipsancient intermediate Grand Cruisers-"modern" prowed Imperial ships continuum is a bit debateable.

From memory, the Imperial spacefleet ships were:

-plastic Gothic cruiser (without the "modern" Imperial prow)

-metal Cobra Destroyer (without the "modern" Imperial prow)

-metal firestorm class cruiser (without the "modern" Imperial prow)

-metal Emperor Class battleship (with Imperial prow)

-metal Ironclad class battleship (without Imperial prow) 

-metal Tyrant class battleship (with prow)

-metal Dictator class battleship (with prow)

-metal Thunderbolt class cruiser (without prow, quite different to most Imperial ships)

-metal Castellan class shield ship (no Imperial prow, very un-Imperial looking)

-metal galaxy-class troop transport (no Imperial prow, very un-Imperial looking)

some sort of escort ship, whose name escapes me (Stalwart?)

the Goliath class factory ship (very un-Imperial looking)

and some sort of sensor ship, whose name totally escape me...

There were also two very specialist Imperial ships in metal that looked totally different to the others: one was (I think) called the Annihilator, which was equipped with massive cannons in a revolving turrent that took up most of the ship's length, and the other was (I think) called the Dominator, which was a bizarre looking specialist boarding craft equipped with two gripping arms and a revolving drill bit. This is all from memory, I don't have my White Dwarf collection on me! There were also Eldar ships and Tyranid vessels, including legendary non-Tyranid "Kraken" hijacked by the hive fleets.

It would be interesting to have a go at statting these things up. If you're scaling them on the same basis as the later Battlefleet Gothic ships, they'd be a bit smaller than their equivalents, just because the miniatures were all a bit smaller. The Spacefleet battleships are all BFG cruiser-sized (if that), and the plastic cruisers are light cruiser sized. 

You could rename these vessels to anything you please to fit in with your Rogue Trader game, or you could just say that they are the same classes as the later BFG ships, just made in different Forge worlds. That's the approach FFG have taken with the Fury class-Interceptor in Into the Storm: They say that the "class" designation just describes vessels made within certain parameters, and that they can actually look very different in practice.    

 



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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:28 PM

ahem...

 

Here is a site which shows the old Space fleet models:

 

www.solegends.com/citsfleet/index.htm
 



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Posted 30 September 2010 - 12:50 AM

There we go! I'm quite pleased I remembered so many of those names correctly...

(albeit not all of them...)



#47 BaronIveagh

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 12:57 AM

Eh, they allready have the Lathe class light cruiser using the admech hull. 

 

and who did that to that light cruiser?  It stings my eyes to look upon.... though it could be just the camera flash...



#48 horizon

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 01:04 AM

Heh,
that's my AdMech CL. Horrible casted model.
thanks. lol

Overexposure on the model intenional to get all the lines on the model as it was used in the AdMech pdf for battlefleet gothic made by Brother Argos and Vaaish.
(Just the Ships of Mars pdf poured into a proper BFG format).
 

 

To ease you, here is a picture of my Lunar Class Admech:



#49 BaronIveagh

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 02:57 AM

I'm semi-mollified



#50 Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:28 PM

I now have over 21 cruisers of different configurations to work with. I have more coming too. Some were horribly painted, and I have tried stripping them with brake fluid, which works ok, but I need a better option. Any ideas? I could also use a little advice on painting them, such as easiest way to do so.



#51 Errant

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:51 PM

Dunking them in Simple Green for a few hours works for most miniatures, I've found.



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Posted 26 October 2010 - 12:20 AM

Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex said:

I now have over 21 cruisers of different configurations to work with. I have more coming too. Some were horribly painted, and I have tried stripping them with brake fluid, which works ok, but I need a better option. Any ideas? I could also use a little advice on painting them, such as easiest way to do so.

Simple Green or dettol, along with a brush and a strong but thin needle.

Painting can be tricky as I always found the models to be tricky and requring a steady hand for the lines. The only advide I can give is keep the colour scheme simple take your time and mount the model on a wine cork for hease of painting. I find that helps. Though you might want to drink the wine after you've finished painting.



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Posted 26 October 2010 - 12:38 AM

Lightbringer said:

As for the old Spacefleet ships, I still like these...

-metal galaxy-class troop transport (no Imperial prow, very un-Imperial looking) 

Actually there was a tongue in cheek reference to one of these in a Caiphas Caine Novel, where they are described as 'antidiluvian'( though what antidiluvian is in imperial terms Im not sure....pre imperium?). So if the old galaxy troopships are still around its not unreasonable to think that some of the space fleet ships may be around too. Though I have to agree about the class thing...it denotes the designation and function of a ship rather than its exterior look. I think this would be specifically true for raiders and transports. Military vessels by nature tend to be standardised because they are often stripped and canabalised for parts to keep other ships going. Private vessels such as non military raiders and transports would be in my opinion have a lot more variation. And a good thing to because one of the raiders the Hazeroth class privateer looks Emperor Damn ugly...looks more like a tugboat than a raider. The Shipwright who designed that one really dropped the ball...

 



#54 BaronIveagh

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 12:29 PM

Interestingly enough, according to fluff the Galaxy -class was able to disembark an entire IG regiment at once with a full compliment of shuttles.



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Posted 10 November 2010 - 07:02 PM

 Any ideas on good color schemes  for RT vessels? How many ships in a prosperous RT fleet? Any heraldry ideas for ships?



#56 Grand Inquisitor Fulminarex

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 07:24 PM

 I like these light cruisers. where can I get them?



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Posted 10 November 2010 - 08:42 PM

Most of the ships are still on GW's order pages, including the various AdMech designs and the Rogue Trader ship and escorts: http://www.games-wor...otCatGameStyle=

I have collected my fleet by tactically scavinging Ebay for bits and large purchases, and ordered those hard to find bits from the GW site itself. Forge World had a bunch of BFG models itself, though I think that they are less interesting for a Rogue Trader.

Color schemes and Heraldry for Rogue Traders is probably immensely varied, both to reflect their status in the Imperium as well as to distinguish them from the Merchant and Solar fleets. The rulebooks state one cruiser as being very gaudy while another is still very much in the state it was when it was part of Battlefleet Calixis. It will also reflect the personality of the Bearer of the Warrent. My own players chose a blue / white color scheme and heraldry.

A prosperous Rogue Trader fleet will  likely hold between 3 and 8 vessels, a mighty fleet in its own right, several of which are Light Cruiser weight and even a rare Cruiser serving as flagship (I generally avoid anything ouchier then a Lunar except as an opponent to my players - they already kick quite enough ass with just a Dauntless). You can include an Escort Carrier (Q-ship or modified Trade vessel with fighter launch bays) and several escorts, filling out the rest with Merchant Vessels to represent supplies, bulk hauling capacity and perhaps even an orbital refinery to instantly process ill-gotten gains. This would represent a powerful and prosperous Rogue Trader who mostly mines and trades, and you can increase or decrease fleet size based on this prosperity. Also, you can switch around ships to add or subtract combat ability when taking into account how 'safe' the area of space is (Raiders, Warzone, Lost Cradle of Humanity, Dead Xenos World, etc...).

 



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:12 PM

Ive started converting up cruisers, light cruisers & a grand cruiser for my rogue trader fleet  - After having a look in the "Rogue trader :Battlefleet Koronus" Ive been inspired to make an Ad-Mech factory ship and in the future even a Universe class mass conveyor & Conquest class star galleon.

You should look at http://www.resinaddi...lefleet-gothic/ for alternative rams and what not - Theres also a great amount of info at both http://www.forum.spe...om/index.php#c1 and http://www.warseer.c...thic-Discussion

 

Lastly the painted RT cruisers are amazing!



#59 BaronIveagh

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:48 AM

 

This is not the best photo of this mini in the world, and it was smashed to a pulp in a move.  I'm rebuilding it.



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

Nice ship mate -
I like the system ship you've put on the base- I have a similar very similar idea . Will post pics when I get a chance






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