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#1 bikinilord

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 02:05 AM

Can you tell me when you place this game compared to other TCG games? Is it better then Magic, worst then YuGiO?



#2 koreymfh

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 03:11 AM

It's really hard to say, I played both magic and Yugi-oh and I like UFS a lot more.  The game is more balanced when I played yugi-oh the only way to win was to buy all the best cards and that made tournaments with competitive players like playing a mirror match that came down to who had a better draw.  In UFS you don't have to have all the good cards to build a really good deck, which helps keep casual players.



#3 Homme Chapeau

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:15 AM

 It's generally in terms of speed. Turns can end quite fast due to a bad control check, and you go through your deck much faster due to the "draw up to your handsize" rule.

If you like fast-paced CCGs, you can't really go wrong with UFS, and as luck would have it new starters are coming out in March.



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Posted 13 December 2008 - 07:20 AM

I normally compare UFS to Magic and Versus (and even WoW when I played it) as opposed to Yugioh.

Really UFS combines aspects of both Yugioh and Magic but I have to say there's a lot more resource management and luck drawing in this game than any other.



#5 bikinilord

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 08:52 AM

uh, i dont like luck



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Posted 13 December 2008 - 11:59 AM

Well, you can control your luck to a certain extent in this game when building the deck since this game relies heavily on making control checks.  If you have no clue at all about this game then take the online demo.  It'd give you a basic idea of how this system plays.



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Posted 13 December 2008 - 12:00 PM

Well, in terms of luck in drawing cards I would say UFS has a lot less of that than MTG, etc. since you draw to your hand size each turn as opposed to a single card. So if you have 4 copies of a card in your deck, you're much more apt to see it consistently than you would in other games. Of course, it's always possible to need an attack and just not draw one, or fail to get more than one or two foundations on both your initial and mulligan draws, but those things don't happen nearly as often as mana-screw, a few turns of dead draws, etc. happen in MTG, and because of the increased card draw rate any changes you make to your deck to mitigate the odds of such things are a lot more effective.

There is more luck than other ccgs in playing cards because of control checks, but once again there's a fair amount of control over that in the deckbuilding stage and the risk/reward fator adds to the strategy anyway.

I'd say one big difference between UFS and the other major ccgs that hasn't been stated yet is the comparative lack of a netdeck factor. You *could* copy someone else's deck, but due to the sheer deck familiarity that's required to do well at a high level, it is very rare to see anyone actually succeed that way. There's also a "diversity" rule that allows only the best player for each character into the top cut, so even when netdeckers do manage a good record they often lose out to the original designers. The vast majority of the winners at majors did it with their own creations, sometimes even by stubbornly sticking to their favorite character and just making it work.



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Posted 17 December 2008 - 07:42 AM

We have a very strong Magic base in our area, and many of our UFS players also play Magic competitively (myself included).  I often compare UFS to Magic stating that "UFS is easier than Magic."  UFS does not have a lot of the timing confusion that other games do - although there can be some!  There are definite paralells with card types.

Overall I would say that the UFS atmosphere is better.  Although there is a lot of "trash talk" in the spirit of the video games, the general atmosphere is more patient and laid back.  The game is very well balanced in that a player does not have to have a lot of high dollar cards to have a winning deck.  Truly ANY character and symbol combination can win a tournament.  This adds to the "fun" element even among the experienced deck builders.

 



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Posted 23 December 2008 - 12:56 PM

I agree with Cetonis, one will almost always draw the important cards one needs in UFS. Especially since there are so many cards that play cards out of the discard pile. With Sakura, for example, you can almost extend your hand to your discard pile. Control checks are also easily managed, and foundations can assure you wont have to relly entirely on control. You also can not get mana screwed!!! You are almost garaunteed to get what you need. This game is, however, much more complicated then MTG or Yu-Gi-Oh! since it was published (originally) by Sabertooth Games.

 



#10 FenMiHuo

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:45 AM

I think this game really involves less luck then most other games, you can completely control your odds and should play based on what might happen, skill at deckbuilding to control what you will draw and your checks is necessary, I dont think luck has much to do with it. As well as playing cards in an order for maximum chance of passThe only time I consider luck to be a factor is you run that single 1 check card and check it on your first foundation of the game, it sucks but its something easily avoided or limited with a well built deck.

Other games drawing 1 card a turn getting the card you need is much harder, in this game not only do you draw to your handsize every turn but you also make control checks for all the cards you play, so if you ditch the card you want you can use recursion to get it from your discard pile.



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Posted 08 January 2009 - 12:58 PM

I am new to UFS but i have been a MTG player for a long time there are pros and con with any TCG. First and for most Magic being one on of the first TCG is of course going to have a few problems. But sence the game is still going very stong they are most likely siting back saying if it is not broken why fix it. WItch i agree with most of all. But i am always looking for a way to expand my knowledg of tcg that is why i am starting to learn UFS so i hope this i will be fun and one of the TCG that i will play for a long time

Ty



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Posted 08 January 2009 - 10:53 PM

I've had many more positive experiences with the PEOPLE who play UFS than I have with those who play other CCGs. I think that it's mainly due to people who play UFS often have the games the cards are based off in common as well as the cards themselves, which means that they generally are more talkative than a lot of CCG players I've played Magic, or at one very short point, Yu-Gi-Oh. As much as I'm well aware that not everyone is the same, in the past I've often found Yu-Gi-Oh players to believe that they are the only person who plays, and MtG players often blow smoke up their own backsides. I've made a hell of a lot of friends playing UFS who I still talk to now ( travelling halfway across the country to celebrate one of their birthdays in a weeks time ;) ) and I hope to make many more across the UK.

Which reminds me, if anyone needs help with either building a deck, saving money in order to do the former, or playstyles in general, I'm here for ya ;)



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Posted 09 January 2009 - 12:01 PM

Viewtiful_Joe said:

I've had many more positive experiences with the PEOPLE who play UFS than I have with those who play other CCGs. I think that it's mainly due to people who play UFS often have the games the cards are based off in common as well as the cards themselves, which means that they generally are more talkative than a lot of CCG players I've played Magic, or at one very short point, Yu-Gi-Oh. As much as I'm well aware that not everyone is the same, in the past I've often found Yu-Gi-Oh players to believe that they are the only person who plays, and MtG players often blow smoke up their own backsides. I've made a hell of a lot of friends playing UFS who I still talk to now ( travelling halfway across the country to celebrate one of their birthdays in a weeks time ;) ) and I hope to make many more across the UK.

Which reminds me, if anyone needs help with either building a deck, saving money in order to do the former, or playstyles in general, I'm here for ya ;)

 

Hello there

I can accept some of that help building a Deck I am really new in this

I am not new in TCG but I am in this

 

Maybe if you see my background you can help me in a deck that could work with me

 

In yu-gi-oh I usually played Zombies, controlling the graveyard and reviving monsters, also drawing a lot of cards

in VS system I played  Xmen and Brotherhood, Basically a burner deck with beatdown

In Magic I played Zombies reviving and regenerating

 

I love all the fighting game that UFS has but I don't know what to use or what character have or anything so if you can help me that would be great

 

THanks



#14 Cetonis

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 05:48 PM

Well, UFS doesn't have anything equivalent to creatures/monsters/etc., so you can't exactly "revive" things per se. But there are a number of ways to bring stuff back from the discard pile, which is even more powerful in UFS than usual because said discard pile naturally grows as you make control checks to play cards. My best suggestion would be to pick up a Sakura starter deck or two, as she's a relatively simple yet powerful recursion-oriented character, and can be good with any of her symbols or combination of symbols. '

Mai is another starter character with recursion, but although she has excellent starter-exclusive rares, the character itself is somewhat awkward to use. It'd probably be better as a supplement later down the line, should your Sakura shift to a water build. Plus I believe it to be pretty bad to have access to Rejection (one of said Mai rares) when you're just starting, as it's a bit of a easy button whose presence will likely hinder learning how to handle the defensive end of the game.



#15 Viewtiful_Joe

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:54 PM

ZeroHart said:

Viewtiful_Joe said:

 

Hello there

I can accept some of that help building a Deck I am really new in this

I am not new in TCG but I am in this

 

Maybe if you see my background you can help me in a deck that could work with me

In yu-gi-oh I usually played Zombies, controlling the graveyard and reviving monsters, also drawing a lot of cards

in VS system I played  Xmen and Brotherhood, Basically a burner deck with beatdown

In Magic I played Zombies reviving and regenerating

 

I love all the fighting game that UFS has but I don't know what to use or what character have or anything so if you can help me that would be great

THanks

 

I think that your best bet to start with is to look at the characters from the fighting games themselves that you like. From what I can see, you seem to lean toward the darker, more sinister style of character. I could tell you the tech behind each and every recursion character under the sun (To be honest, due to your playstyle, Sakura and Mai, as Cetonis said, seem like good bets for you, as they play around with their discard piles quite a lot) but it wouldn't be any fun for you if you ended up playing characters you didn't like, so I think that if you tell us the characters themselves you like, we can help you to adapt that character into the playstyle you prefer. UFS is a very versatile game, in that characters can more often than not be played in a multitude of different ways. Sakura and Mai are quite good examples of this, as they can jump up and down the control/aggro slider like noones business.

So yeah, let me know who you're favourite characters are (the more choice the better) and I'll see if I can't adapt it to be a recursion style character, if they aren't one already :)



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Posted 10 January 2009 - 05:46 AM

 WHoa! THanks I am going to review some characters I like and make a list here

 

maybe tomorrow or by monday I will do so.

also my MSN is zerohart@hotmail.com or Gtalk zerohart@gmail.com

 

if anyone wants to chat about the game! I saw a guy playing with like 4 characters in his deck is that legal? how is it possible?



#17 Tygretoe

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 07:08 AM

Viewtiful_Joe said:

I've had many more positive experiences with the PEOPLE who play UFS than I have with those who play other CCGs. I think that it's mainly due to people who play UFS often have the games the cards are based off in common as well as the cards themselves, which means that they generally are more talkative than a lot of CCG players I've played Magic, or at one very short point, Yu-Gi-Oh. As much as I'm well aware that not everyone is the same, in the past I've often found Yu-Gi-Oh players to believe that they are the only person who plays, and MtG players often blow smoke up their own backsides. I've made a hell of a lot of friends playing UFS who I still talk to now ( travelling halfway across the country to celebrate one of their birthdays in a weeks time ;) ) and I hope to make many more across the UK.

Which reminds me, if anyone needs help with either building a deck, saving money in order to do the former, or playstyles in general, I'm here for ya ;)

I am new to the game and trying to build a Morrigan deck from the darkstalkers Realm of Midnight what is the main teck behind her



#18 Antigoth

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 09:42 AM

Greetings new folks!

Welcome aboard. Just as a suggestion, if your scroll up a bit on the screen where you selected this thread, you'll see deck building forms.

Feel free to look through there to see what others have built.

If that's not giving you the assistance that you need, feel free to create a brand new thread in the section where we can discuss your deck.

 



#19 ZeroHart

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 06:44 PM

 Ok I Have them now

  • K'
  • Ken 
  • Tycho  *
  • Haohmaru
  • Iori
  • Kyo
  • Terry
  • Genjuro
  • Tam Tam

The ones on bold are the characters that I have now, The Tycho one I got it from a friend an a couple of cards from that deck but that's it

 

I would really like to build a deck with tycho for what i see is a good character, also maybe with haomaru since I have it.

 



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Posted 10 January 2009 - 07:04 PM

 Ok I just found out that tycho is not legal but I hope that since it is going to be reprinted is going to come back, anyways here in costa rica they don't make Tourneys and it is pretty hard to buy the cards, I have to import everything






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