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#21 gabe69velasquez

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 12:02 AM

They are taller than they are long...

I believe the height is 8.9 m while the length is 6.4 m.

40mm x 33mm miniature.
If the height was 8.99 meters
then the length would be 7.42 meters
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#22 Captain Lackwit

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 12:17 AM

Hey. Hey. Remember when Han mentioned, "The big Corellian ships"?

Yeah.

This thing.


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#23 Farlander

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 12:49 AM

 

 

2) They are from the new "Rebels" TV show, and yes, are now strict canon.

This is not entirely correct, as the Gozanti appeared already a long time ago in the prequels:

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#24 Bakura83

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 01:08 AM

 
 
2) They are from the new "Rebels" TV show, and yes, are now strict canon.


This is not entirely correct, as the Gozanti appeared already a long time ago in the prequels:mos_espa01.jpg
 
 
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#25 Captain Lackwit

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 01:47 AM

That's been overridden by new content. Which is exactly how it works.


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#26 Glentopher

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 03:12 AM

The Only thing that is Canon is the new TV series, a companion book is not Canon at all, it might be accurate but its not gospel, if they say how long the ships are in the show that will be Canon, but as pointed out its already wrong about tie fighters.
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#27 Rithrin

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 03:26 AM

Have to admit, this ship is growing on me. This plus a crusader-class corvette would be a nice pair for the Empire epic ships, in my opinion.



#28 Rob Jedi

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 07:20 AM

On screen depictions are the absolute worst basis for precise measurements. You can get a general idea of how big something is supposed to be from them, but perspective and angle issues make trying to determe anything remotely reliable impossible, and that is multiplied by a factor of 10 when it comes to animation where things are likely to not even be drawn the same size from frame to frame.


I was using the model sheet not screen grabs

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#29 Lagomorphia

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 07:32 AM

FFG will get the scale right, even if this book gets them wrong. Remember a lot of sourcebooks like to put the HWK at Falcon length.



#30 That Blasted Samophlange

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 07:51 AM

The new show is drawing a lot of inspiration from the original McQuarrie art. The concept art for TIE fighters makes the wings smaller. It is an earlier version of TIE.
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#31 BaronFel

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 09:33 AM

Let me try my hand at these questions...[snip] 
1. Because these ships deserve their own thread. I'm sure you'll get over the inconvenience.
2. They're from SW:Rebels. I'm guessing this is from the new Visual Guide.
3. He's probably posting them because they're candidates for inclusion into our game. There was commentary at GenCon about the inlcusion of stuff from Rebels. Given that an Imperial Huge has to be in the works, this one in particular is at the top end of the short list.
4. I guess that depends on the particular interpretation of those terms. In So. Texas  'taco' is a soft-shell tortilla at roughly 10" diameter, whereas elsewhere they're about 5" diameter. Given that burrito is not that much bigger, it becomes a question of how hungry you are.  ... I'll have one lengua taco and the other barbacoa.


I suppose I did deserve that. :)

I didn't mean to come across quite as snarky as I originally came across, I just didn't quite know what to say to a picture of a ship--however cool--without context.

That said, I'd love to see an Imperial Gozanti. The Empire needs an epic ship and this one seems to fit the bill. With the "skirt" it has the right build and the concept of a carrier is certainly appealing, though I don't really know how that would work mechanically for a dogfighting game.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:07 AM

FFG will get the scale right, even if this book gets them wrong. Remember a lot of sourcebooks like to put the HWK at Falcon length.


Because that is the size it SHOULD be, the size it looks like, and the size that was implied when it was introduced, and why using screen shots to determine sizes is a really bad idea.

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#33 Hobojebus

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:13 AM

I think it would weird to have an imperial large at 270 scale and a rebel at 450.

#34 Captain Lackwit

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 12:10 PM

The new show is drawing a lot of inspiration from the original McQuarrie art. The concept art for TIE fighters makes the wings smaller. It is an earlier version of TIE.

I'm really okay with this TIE being an earlier version.


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#35 patox

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 02:18 AM

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Where did everyone end up on the old TIE fighter debate when the game first came out?



#36 Mikael Hasselstein

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 02:31 AM

Where did everyone end up on the old TIE fighter debate when the game first came out?

 

I ran numbers a long time ago, for a very different project, and I think I came out at around the 10m height. But maybe that was just for ease of calculation.

 

Just going visually here, I'd say the 10.8 looks too large.



#37 patox

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 02:59 AM

10.8m height=8.9m length

 

7.5m height=6.4m length

 

6.7m height=5.3m length



#38 Captain Lackwit

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:01 AM

Huh, FFG fudged that one.

Then again...

*looks at A-Wing*

Uh.


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#39 That Blasted Samophlange

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:34 AM

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Where did everyone end up on the old TIE fighter debate when the game first came out?

the problem with this picture is that the TIE fighter is completely scaled down, whwre if you watch Rebels, you'd see that it is only the wing sections that are smaller.


Furthermore, using wookiepedia as a reference is not a good idea. It is not a reliable source. Would you, or let a child, use wikipedia as a source for a school project?

Edited by That Blasted Samophlange, 01 September 2014 - 03:38 AM.

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#40 Rob Jedi

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 04:05 AM

Yeah that chart should be labelled FFG/Official/SFX model, Wikipedia, Rebels

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