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#21 Aminar

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:00 AM

 

 

 

What's a buzzsaw shuttle?

Omicron + Gunner + Engine Upgrade + Fire control system.

 

add tactician to that loadout and u have that 1-2 dishes stress every round. thats nasty.

 

We've been calling it the "Buzzkill" shuttle and it was built as a dual phantom/falcon counter. You have the option to drop either FCS or Tactician depending on points but having been on shooting end and the receiving end, double stress is a colossal pain to get rid of. A Buzzkill supported by Ties chewed through triple bounty hunters in short order and has the potential to put action-heavy threats (Soontir, Phantoms, etc) out of commission for several rounds.

Of course if your support fleet doesn't have the teeth to take advantage of it, it's not a surefire win but for 1 point more than a naked Firespray it's a pretty solid investment.

 

Hmmm

Buzzkil

Whisper the Prison guard

2 Academies.

All the stress.  Lots of crashing.  Decent Firepower.

Could be worth a try.  



#22 Gundog8324

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:32 AM

This sort of thing alarms me. I have yet to play a game of X-wing where I thought either player had a huge advantage based on his build. It usually panned out where victory was decided by positioning and dice. True, I have yet to play in an official tournament.

Whisper going for the kill if/when it comes to that. At a pinch Whisper can act as a Falcon blocker to deny Evade/C3P0 combo.

 

The whole " I have to build to beat x" thing sounds too much like another minis game that I fled to x-wing to escape.

 

You sir have not tried flying Interceptors against Falcons very often have you?



#23 Aminar

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:48 AM

 

This sort of thing alarms me. I have yet to play a game of X-wing where I thought either player had a huge advantage based on his build. It usually panned out where victory was decided by positioning and dice. True, I have yet to play in an official tournament.

Whisper going for the kill if/when it comes to that. At a pinch Whisper can act as a Falcon blocker to deny Evade/C3P0 combo.

 

The whole " I have to build to beat x" thing sounds too much like another minis game that I fled to x-wing to escape.

 

You sir have not tried flying Interceptors against Falcons very often have you?

 

Or anything against Falcons.

The thing to remember is that you have to have a plan to face Phantoms, not necessarily a build.  You have to know how to Corral them and take them down.  As much as their defense is great, and they are stellar arc dodgers, I would hazard a bet that the average Firespray is just as difficult to take down.  It takes about between 4 or 5 modified attacks to take down a Phantom not modifying their defense Dice(such as one being fired on by a Gunner).  While that is a lot for a ship with 4 hits it's pretty similar to(but less hits than) a Recon Specialist Bounty Hunter, which also excels at arc dodging due to the ability to fly behind a list, creating exactly the same issues as the Phantom(do you face the firespray or the rest of the team.  That's not a perfect comparison, and focus firing a Phantom is harder, but that's where having a plan comes in.  How do you arrange your firing arcs to catch it.  What tricks do you have.  Do you have Gunner?  How about Push the limit on a ship that can Focus and Target Lock.  Do you have any high PS.  None of these things are bad or limit your build.  But knowing what ships need to do what is key.



#24 Magnus Grendel

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:11 AM

 

I played 2 Han falcon builds today, both with Headhunter support, I tabled both of them, one in 25 minutes and the other in 45. Etahn Abaht is the Falcons bane, I focus fired the falcon and dropped like 4 crits on each of them. In both games took them out in the first 2-3 firing turns. Didn't get to play against Phantoms so I'm not sure how my build would work against them, but I'm interested to try it out. My build was Etahn+PTL+Adv Sens+R2-D2, Wedge+Predator, Biggs+R4-D6.

 

 

A slight modification to that statement: Etahn Abaht is Han's bane. Chewbacca laughs like a drain, and I see him nearly as often.


Edited by Magnus Grendel, 14 July 2014 - 09:11 AM.





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