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#1 Hrathen

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:41 AM

For most of the ships coming out in wave 4 I think I will buy 2 or three ships.  They are elite ships that cost a lot of points.  So even if I wanted to I couldn't field too many of them.

 

But the Z-95 can be as cheap as 12 points equal to an academy pilot.  I have 8 TIEs just so I can run a full TIE Superswarm, and get as many ships on the board as possible if I so choose.

 

But according to what I have read and my own interpretations the Z-95 is not going to do as well in swarms.  It seems more like a cheap auxiliary a good choice for missiles, and to fill in that half a ships worth of points you might have after you buy all the things you were wanting.  If that is the case I don't really need to buy more than 2 to 4 of these.  That being said, can I really resist the chance to try to make a rebel swarm work, and if I can't will it be worth the $60 for the second 4 ships that I will likely not use more than once?


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#2 Swedge

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:47 AM

just get 18 and sell the extras on EBay 6 months later for a HUGE profit...  


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#3 Cptnhalfbeard

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:49 AM

I can see using a couple as cheap missile boats, or even a cheap support ship - the fact that their high PS pilots are as cheap as a generic A-wing is pretty cool (I can see airen being popular). I only got 2, I don't foresee wanting more than that. I guess we'll see once they are out :)

#4 R2ShihTzu

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:57 AM

3 or 4 tops. I don't see myself ever wanting to run a 7+ ship Z-95 swarm, but a 3-4 ship mini-swarm alongside a flagship like the Falcon, sure.


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#5 zathras23

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:59 AM

Preordered 4 and don't see needing more than that.

#6 Ken at Sunrise

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:59 AM

Here are some links to polls over at BGG:

 

How many Wave 4 ships are you buying?

http://boardgamegeek...-are-you-buying

 

How many ships do you need for a balanced fleet?

http://boardgamegeek...-balanced-fleet



#7 oddeye

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:03 AM

I was and still am a big fan of the whole rebel swarm idea and I'm only getting around 3 when they are released. If I need more I can just get em later down the road.


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#8 Engine25

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:05 AM

I will buy enough.


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#9 Battalia

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:08 AM

Yea, the 2 evade means these things will get gunned down FAST. Yea, your shields may absorb a crit or two, but the sheer weight of fire will rip them apart more so than a tie swarm. 

 

While not as economical the rebel swarm would be served best with A-Wing's with the chardaan refit. 15 for the A is > 12 for the TIE/LN but you should still be able to get about 6 in there. Maybe only 3-4 refits and some A's can take missiles, or names. This would nab you an extra shield over the tie swarm but would leave you numerically at a disadvantage. But 3 evade and 2 attack vs 3 evade and 2 attack would be a long drawn out battle =p

 

As for the original question, 2 for me will probably be plenty. I still feel they are more like budget A's with a worse dial, so they would only work best as a points filler rather than an outflanking roll.


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#10 Ken at Sunrise

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:11 AM

I've been debating on two or four.  Looks like most people will get two but there's still plenty who want four.

 

Maybe two to start with?



#11 VanorDM

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:19 AM

I'll get 6. I normally get enough to build a 100 point list out any given ship, other then the large ones.

With 6 you can run Craken, Blount, and 4 Tala squad, with 5 Assault Missiles. Not that the list will always work, but when it does work against a tie swarm it will be glorious. :D
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#12 Pygon

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:20 AM

I'm going with 6, because I might want to try a Rebel swarm.


Core/Wave 1: 4 X-Wings, 3 Y-Wings, 8 TIE Fighters, 3 TIE Advanceds; Wave 2: 2 YT-1300s, 3 A-Wings, 2 Firesprays, 3 TIE Interceptors

Wave 3: 3 B-Wings, 3 TIE Bombers, 3 HWK-290s, 2 Lambda Shuttles; Imperial Aces: 2 Royal Guard Interceptors, 2 Elite Interceptors

Huge ships: 1 Tantive IV, 2 Transports, 2 alternate X-Wings

Wave 4: 3 E-Wings, 6 Z95s, 3 TIE Defenders, 3 TIE Phantoms


#13 Sergovan

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:29 AM

I'm going to buy them all! Wha ha ha! *evil grin*  *evil finger pyramid* :P

 

No seriously, probably 4-6. Rebel swarm with options.


Rebels: 5 X-Wing, 4 Y-Wing, 4 A-Wing, 2 Yt-1300, 3 B-wing, 3 HWK-290, 3 Z-95, 1 E-wing, 1 CR 75

Empire: 6 Tie Fighters, 6 Tie Interceptors (1- 181st, 1- RG), 2 Tie Advanced, 2 Firesprays, 4 Tie Bombers,

2 Lambda, 1 Tie Phantom, 1 Defender

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#14 Eggs

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:37 AM

5 to begin with, just cos it seems like a good number. If I really enjoy swarming them, I may go to 10 for epic purposes...

#15 Skargoth

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:39 AM

I was originally going to get 4, but I might go up to 6. Can run Cracken + 5 Bandit. 6 Bandit + missiles. I like the options!



#16 Effenhoog

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:45 AM

I preordered 4 and I'm fairly sure that is enough, I have never run all 8 of my TIEs (or even more than 5 of them at a time) and if I want a larger swarm type build I can use a mixture of Z-95s and A-wings, especially after rebel aces is available.



#17 DarthSidious

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:56 AM

I'm going to get two of each wave four ship initially, possibly more later.


Rebels: 3xX-Wing, 2xB-Wing, 2xA-Wing, 1xY-Wing, 1xYT-1300, 1xHWK-290, 1xCR90, 2xE-Wing, 2xZ-95

Empire: 6xTIE Fighter, 2xTIE Advanced, 1xLambda Shuttle, 2xTIE Interceptor, 3xImperial Aces, 4xTIE Bomber, 1xFirespray-31, 2xTIE Defender, 2xTIE Phantom

 

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#18 skyhwk290

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:05 AM

I ordered five figuring that if I have 3 base ones with Assault Missiles and Weapon Failsafe and both uniques I could easily get 100 points.  Plus a lot of the upgrade cards are useful in other builds as well.



#19 Soulfly626

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:09 AM

2 because they are so ugly!!!

 

Same goes with the Ewing.



#20 MajorJuggler

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:14 AM

I typically get at least the max needed for a 100 point squad (other than the HWK, which I "only" got 4 of), so 8 Z-95's it is. I am going to custom cut my own foam in a few weeks, and I will be cutting out spaces for at least 12, so I can add more later without having to change the foam. I'm also getting 4 of each of the other wave 4 ships.


Edited by MajorJuggler, 14 May 2014 - 11:15 AM.





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