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#1 Khyros

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:59 AM

So, I have a nervous twitch when someone calls Jan a guy, or Krassis a girl, or whatever.  So, the following is a list of men and women in the game so you'll never confuse their genders again!

 

Biggs Darklighter - Male Human from Tatooine

  -Red 3 during Yavin

Garven Dreis - Male Human from Virujansi

  -Red Leader during Yavin

Luke Skywalker - Male Human from Tatooine

  -Red 5 during Yavin, Rogue Leader

Wedge Antilles - Male Human from Corellia

  -Red 2 during Yavin, Rogue 3, Rogue Leader, Red Leader during Endor

 

Jon "Dutch" Vander - Male Human

  -Gold Leader during Yavin (Not the lead Y during the first trench run)

Horton Salm - Male Human from Norval II

  -Gray Leader during Endor, General commanding Defender + Aggressor wings

 

Arvel Crynyd - Male Human

  -Green Leader during Endor

Tycho Celchu - Male Human from Alderaan

  -Green 3 during Endor (His X wing was out of commission and preferred to be in an A wing than on the sidelines), (Rogue 9, Rogue 7, Rogue Leader - all in X wings)

 

Chewbacca - Male Wookie from Kashyyyk

Lando Calirissian - Male Human from Corellia

  -Gold Leader during Endor

Han Solo - Male Human from Corellia

  -Renegade Leader

 

Ibitsam - Female Mon Cal from Mon Calamari 

  -Blue ?? during Endor, Rogue 2 (X wing)

Ten Numb - Male Sullustan from Sullust

  -Blue 5 during Endor, Blue Leader

 

Roark Garnet - Human Male from Socorro

Kyle Katarn - Human Male from Sulon

Jan Ors - Human Female from Alderaan

 

Tarn Mison - Human Male from Las Lagon

  -Gunner for Tycho in the T-47, escorted Bright Hope, does not appear to have his own call sign

Derek "Hobbie" Klivian - Human Male from Ralltiir

  -Red 5 prior to Yavin (was sick and could not fly, Luke took his place), Rogue 4, Red 4 during Endor, Rogue Leader

Wes Janson - Human Male from Taanab

  -Yellow Aces _ (Y Wing), Red 6 prior to Yavin (was sick during Yavin and Porkins flew in his place), Rogue _, Wraith 11

Jek "Piggy" Porkins - Human Male

  -Yellow Aces _ (Y Wing), Red 6 during Yavin

 

Keyan Farlander - Human Male from Agamar

  -Gold 7 during Yavin, Blue 9 during Endor

Jake Farrell - Human Male 

  -R-22 spearhead during Yavin, Green 4 during Endor

 

 

 

For the Imps, assume human male except the following:

Howlrunner Human Female

Kath Scarlet Human Female


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#2 catachan23

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:19 AM

...assume human male except the following...

I could't help but think of this:

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#3 Bohrdumb

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:28 AM

Wow, they sure have a race/gender issue amongst their armed forces. 


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

Wow, they sure have a race/gender issue amongst their armed forces.


Well consider that the OT came out in the 70's and the idea of women in combat wasn't very well accepted.

To be honest the OT was rather advanced in terms of the female hero, in a sci-fi movie for that era.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:52 AM

 

Wow, they sure have a race/gender issue amongst their armed forces.


Well consider that the OT came out in the 70's and the idea of women in combat wasn't very well accepted.

To be honest the OT was rather advanced in terms of the female hero, in a sci-fi movie for that era.

 

 

Lucas has been a huge supporter of gender and race equality in his films.  I think that is a part of why Star Wars remains the great American mythos.  


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:56 AM

Lucas has been a huge supporter of gender and race equality in his films.


Yeah the scene where the Princess grabs the blaster from the male hero and gets them all out of the fire... and into the trash compactor, was a pretty bold thing for the time.

Princesses weren't supposed to be able to use a weapon, let alone take charge and save the heroes... They were supposed to be helpless bait to trap the hero.

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 10:59 AM

Porkins is not a male, he is dust floating in outer space somewhere.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:02 AM

 

 

Lucas has been a huge supporter of gender and race equality in his films.  I think that is a part of why Star Wars remains the great American mythos.  

 

 

:blink:

 

As catachan illustrates, there are exactly two women with names in the original trilogy, and just one person of color. Then we flip to the prequels and we get Nute Gunray, Watto, and Jar Jar Binks as indicators of Lucas' open-mindedness and support for equality.

 

I don't think Lucas is a racist, misogynist jerk; I think his work is a product of a cultural moment where white male privilege was unacknowledged and completely acceptable, and I do think he deserves some credit for Leia's agency. But let's not make him out to be a civil rights pioneer, or anything.


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:03 AM

 

Lucas has been a huge supporter of gender and race equality in his films.


Yeah the scene where the Princess grabs the blaster from the male hero and gets all out of the fire... and into the trash compactor, was a pretty bold thing for the time.

 

 

Darth Vader is voiced by a black man.  Lando is a good guy and doesn't die!  And there are several strong female character in the original movies. 



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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:04 AM

But let's not make him out to be a civil rights pioneer, or anything.


I don't think anyone would compare him to Dr. King or anything...

But 1 person of color and 2 named women in a movie in that era was pretty far from the norm.

As an aside, the first inter-racial kiss on TV was in Star Trek, when Kirk kissed Uhura.
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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

There are three named women. You forgot Aunt Beru.
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#12 LukesFather

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

may I say - REALLY?  its not a big deal.  NOt everyone playing has the same knowledge of the people that someone else does.  I know the main cast and thats about it, some randoms here and there from some of the games.  Its not a big deal.  And actually if we ever played, I may just call them the wrong gender to get in your head.  Alls that matters for the game is who is shooting what.  Not He/She/It.

 

sorry for the outburst, but really not that big of a deal, when I play I'm not playing to get "fictional history" correct.  I'm there to shoot She/It down.


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#13 Vorpal Sword

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:26 AM

There are three named women. You forgot Aunt Beru.

 

Good point; I stand corrected.

 

Darth Vader is voiced by a black man.  Lando is a good guy and doesn't die!  And there are several strong female character in the original movies. 

 

 

James Earl Jones never appears on screen, and he wasn't even credited in New Hope and Empire until the special edition re-releases in the 90s. And with respect to the strong female characters--name at least two women (1) whose names are mentioned in the films, and (2) whose actions have a strong impact on the course of the narrative. It's Leia and… ? 

 

Again, I'm not saying Lucas is a terrible person--but he wasn't exactly breaking down barriers.



#14 Khyros

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:35 AM

Wow, this took a turn I didn't expect.

As for Nute Gunray and Watto and Jar Jar... I think that has more to do with advancements in special effects.  I mean, in the OT, you see several other species in Mos Eisley, but they're all bipedals in costumes.  And from the way they move, you can tell that they have to be gentle with their movements.  Exceptions being the Biths.

 

You also see creatures in EP5 in the form of the tauntaun and wampa, and the giant space slug.  But then in EP6, you see Nien Numb, who again is just a face lift, but a much better job.  And you also get the rancor, and dear god does the original VHS of him seem so soo soooo bad.  I remember the first time I saw the special edition, I was blown away by how much better that scene looked.  Which makes me feel bad because it looks horrible.  Sadly, my VHS copy of EP6 has been played too many times and is no longer functional, so I can't go back and watch the original version anymore so I can't compare back to the original.

 

 

So, by Watto / Nute / Jar Jar is more to do with giving everything a spacey feel, and having the tech in order to back it up in the PT.  


PS. Lucas was on thin ice through out all of EP4, so he really couldn't take any risks that would alienate his audience and cause the film to flop.  He actually lied to producers and they told him to stop filming and that the movie had been scrapped... but he said he was already done and it was in post production... And then scrambled to shoot the second half of the movie.  And the Tashe station scene was removed because critics claimed that Lucas had written american grafitti in space!  And to keep it from seeming like that, he pulled the scene of all the friends hanging out.


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#15 Zogwort

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:36 AM

What I wish they would have done in the first place is instead of a picture of the ship on the named pilot's card, they would have a picture of the actual pilot. If they did that than this would not even be an issue.



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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:41 AM

Ahem, there is an awesome scene in Chasing Amy where Hooper is speaking at a comic convention about how racist starwars was.

 

Best quote: And Jedi's the most insulting installment! Because Vader's beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man! They tryin' to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!

 

Best part of the movie, just shut it off after that part. :)


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:24 PM

Remember, this all happened in a galaxy far far away....

Rebel Alliance: 5 [X-Wing], 2 [Y-Wing], 2 [A-Wing], 3 [B-Wing], 2 [HWK-290], 1 [YT-1300], 1 [GR75 Transport], 1 [CR90 Corvette], 4 [Z-95], 2 [E-Wing]

 

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:27 PM

Ahem, there is an awesome scene in Chasing Amy where Hooper is speaking at a comic convention about how racist starwars was.
 
Best quote: And Jedi's the most insulting installment! Because Vader's beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man! They tryin' to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!
 
Best part of the movie, just shut it off after that part. :)


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Empire: 8 [Tie Fighter], 3 [Tie Advanced], 3 [Tie Interceptor], 3 [Tie Bomber], 1 [Firespray-31], 1 [Lambda Shuttle], 1 [Imperial Aces], 2 [Tie Phantom], 2 [Tie Defender]


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

BLACK RAGE!


Rebels: 6 Xwing, 3 Ywings, 2 Awings, 1 YT-1300, 1 HWK, 4 Bwings, 2 Ewings, 4 Z95s

Empire: 8 TIEs, 4 Interceptors, 2 Advanced, 2 Firesprays, 2 Bombers, 1 Shuttle, 2 Phantoms, 3 Defenders

Scum: 4 Z95, 3 Ywings, 1 HWK, 2 Firesprays

 


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Posted 03 April 2014 - 01:16 PM

I hope threads like this just prompt FFG to go female and non-white and aliens for any "made up" pilots they get to do.  It's quite sad really.






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